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[quote=Brentaxe]So friggen cold... This thread is dark and dangerous, escape while you can my fellow mobafire'ons![/quote]

[quote=Brentaxe]And what have you started Xaioli![/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]@Adonikam, I am talking about my personal rankings and shit...totally unrelated. And [quote=wRAthoFVuLK] I told you guys 100s of times about my ranked. Right when I turned 30 I played some ranked matches with some friends, we all just turned 30, we wanted to see how it went, we did horrible in all of them. That was half a year ago +. Seriously, don't bring in things about other people you don't know about. That is just stupid. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=gokuma][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Holy fuck don't drag me into this bro. I told you guys 100s of times about my ranked. Right when I turned 30 I played some ranked matches with some friends, we all just turned 30, we wanted to see how it went, we did horrible in all of them. That was half a year ago +. Seriously, don't bring in things about other people you don't know about. That is just stupid. [/quote] dude u did this so much in this post, stop being a whiny little hypocrit bitch and if u want to prove something, do it with your elo. if u feel that u dont have to prove anything then stfu now because if ur not gonna back up ur shit, your words are for nothing[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]LOL wtf? you mad... and I am specifically talking about how I don't play ranked and how Elo is like all luck until you get higher...why would I PROVE it with Elo... rofl know what you are going to say before you say it... and reading helps too :)[/quote]

[quote=Brentaxe][quote=gokuma] [quote=wRAthoFVuLK] Holy fuck don't drag me into this bro. I told you guys 100s of times about my ranked. Right when I turned 30 I played some ranked matches with some friends, we all just turned 30, we wanted to see how it went, we did horrible in all of them. That was half a year ago +. Seriously, don't bring in things about other people you don't know about. That is just stupid. [/quote] dude u did this so much in this post, stop being a whiny little hypocrit bitch and if u want to prove something, do it with your elo. if u feel that u dont have to prove anything then stfu now because if ur not gonna back up ur shit, your words are for nothing [/quote] CLASSIC GOKUMA[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Basically what I'm saying in Wraths case is that he hasn't played enough Ranked to have the knowledge to say (for a fact) that it's luck. That's like me going into a hospital and saying I'm a doctor. You don't have the experience to even comment in a thread about Ranked let alone telling people how the Elo system works.[/quote]

[quote=DocSmoothJew]Adon, you act like Riot invented Elo. For your hospital analogy, you actually don't have to be a doctor to know a lot about medicine or human health. Lots of people that don't have an MD are very qualified to help you get well when something is wrong with your body. Also, two things I don't know about you that qualify your knowledge alot are a) were you in beta? and b) do/did you play HoN or were you at least involved a lot in the HoN community at some point? I want to know 'a' because it will demonstrate your knowledge on the evolution of Riot's MM system and 'b' I want to know to ascertain what perspective you have on an outsider's view of Riot's MM system as it is today.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]No and No. I know where Elo originated, it's fair because everyone has to go through the same thing. It's not biased or closeminded it just "is". The only thing that's unfair about it (the way I see it) is the constant patch changes. For example; Ezreal was OP when he was released and people probably carried a lot of their games with him. Another example is Eve, she pubstomps like nothing else and people are getting inflated Elo when she isn't banned. Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is that it's not "luck" if you get an artificially inflated Elo then you're going to be put with harder opponents, ie. You lose until you're back where you belong. People can get to any Elo if they keep playing Ranked games (See Considereth)as they learn more and more so it obviously means you deserve to be there.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] and I am specifically talking about how I don't play ranked and how Elo is like all luck until you get higher...why would I PROVE it with Elo... [/quote] why is elo "luck" until you get higher, wouldn't the "bads" "luckily" go up as well if its all "luck" it would be 50%good players and 50% bad, luck is the smallest factor in ranked play, in this game you [u] can [/u] carry a whole team on your back, it been proven, you've dodged the point about hotshotgg getting #1 & #2 and bigfatjiji getting #3 and #4. if that doesnt prove its solo player skill and carrying 4 baddies at 1300 elo i dont know what is.[/quote]