Ranked Lee Sin Build

[quote=DuffTime]Anyway Symph, I think your build is very good right up until the Wit's End, which is in most regards a poor choice for Lee Sin. And the Sunfire Cloak has good stats defensively, but as Lee Sin you'd be better off buffing his physical damage and tankiness in as many ways as possible, due to the nature of the champion. He's basically somewhere inbetween a physical caster and a melee auto attacker, and since both styles of play work equally well on him, there's really no reason not to go a little bit hybrid in that regard between a physical caster and a Tanky DPS. Searz and I are mostly in agreement with the Atmogg's + TF evaluation. If our current meta at least, melee types generally need to have a certain amount of beefiness to avoid going splat. The combo also buffs his AD a bit (Which is what you want to do on Lee Sin for damage on auto attacks AND skills), give his those nice procs which synergize with his skill rotations, a fairly reliable slow to keep your opponents around, beefyness, etc etc. The Force of Nature will still be a great buy at this point. The only difference between what Searz is saying and I am saying is I would get the Giant's belt and then rush Atma's like you're already doing here. I would also finish Merc treads before the Giant's belt. Mobility as a jungler is #1 ----- Lee Sin's best items if you ask me. -Brutalizer (Armor pen, AD, CDR. 1337 gold. Doesn't get much better.) -Youmuu's (Not really as much for the active, but again for the ARP, AD, and CDR. Active is always good though, and shouldn't be underestimated. Don't forget if you buy Youmuu's you can buy a Brutalizer and get double the CDR adn ArP and such as well, if you want! Works like WotA and Hextech's.) -Last Whisper (Even if they aren't building too much armor, with just 100 armor if you didn't buy a Brutalizer this item is generally "worth it" on Lee Sin. -Infinity Edge (Makes Lee Sin into an auto attacking beast, and buffs his skills substantially. When coupled with either Youmuu's or Trinity Force (My personal favorite is Trinity Force / Inf Edge, then you're going to deal more damage with your auto attacks and your skills supplement that. You'll need to evolve your playstyle throughout the duration of your game as you get your items though.) -Trinity Force (For obvious reasons. It synergizes with literally every single thing he does and boosts him as an overall champion. The only issue is that it doesn't boost his skills damage very much, and for that reason I don't always build it. I usually don't anymore, in fact.) -Warmogg's -FoN -Atma's (Offense and defense in the same package. Most importantly- AD. You want AD wherever you can get it. On effect items are not ideal for Lee Sin if they can be replaced with straight AD bonuses. This is why many / most games I don't ever build Trinity on him. It's certainly not a priority item for me on him, maybe a mid/late game item.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I don't have much experience with Lee Sin as a jungler Symph, but his passive makes Wriggle's lantern an item worth buying. You'll get dragons and barons really fast, and that's a realistic concern as a jungler. While Lantern's not perfect for Lee, I do think it's good enough to buy. I even buy it in a lot of my games where I lane. Probably 30-35% of my games. Merc treads/Lanter/Giant's belt will make you reasonably tanky as well. I would consider buying a Brutalizer at this point. It will make your damage jump more than you might think, even if you simply sell it later.[/quote]

[quote=Dante Rebellion]I go Fatmas instead of Atmogtriforce mainly because I find warmog a bit too expensive for its benefits... FM+atmas can make lee sin already pretty tanky and perma slow is great stuff.= It also is generally cheaper so I can get defensive items faster Personal preference I guess[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][[wriggle's lantern]] [[boots of speed]] [[warmog's armor]] [[mercury's treads]] [[atma's impaler]] [[force of nature]] [[last whisper]]/[[trinity force]]/more survivability My current build for lee sin in both lane and jungle. Wriggle's is just such an awesome item for him(and quite a few top solo offtanks right now).. It makes him pretty much impossible to 1v1. Yeah, I know my guide says otherwise... I'm too lazy to update it.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]^ That's pretty much exactly the conclusion I came to as well. Wriggle's is a bomb item. Can be swapped for bruta if you're top lane or both can be bought. The sustain and utlity for hopping and just for warding lane is hawtt.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Lol, IE on Lee Sin. Fail.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]You sound like you're probably inexperienced with Lee Sin if you think I.E. is bad on him.[/quote]

[quote=Symphunny]lol thanks guys. ill just test around a bit. and i honestly dont like warmogs because it only gives hp, i prefer sunfire because it gives up and armor. they say defensive is the best offense right?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Just look at the different values of HP from Sunfire to Warmogg's. When you factor the armor from Atma's, you'll have more survivability with the 1400 HP on Warmogg's.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DuffTime] You sound like you're probably inexperienced with Lee Sin if you think I.E. is bad on him.[/quote] http://www.solomid.net/guides_search.php?filter=leesin Not a single IE in the featured guides (high elo people). You fail.[/quote]