Runes for AD carries.

[quote=IceCreamy]Hi, I have been doing some thinking about runes for AD carries, but I can't quite decide on which ones are optimal. I mostly play Caitlyn/Vayne, so please consider that in your answer. Once I am satisfied, I will surely credit you in my Caitlyn guide. Oh, I currently run 6 Armor Pen Marks, 3 AD/lvl Marks, 9 AD/lvl Seals, 9 AD/lvl Glyphs, 3 AD/lvl Quintessences. Thank you in advance for any help :)[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Armor Pen marks. HP/lvl or armor seals. (don't run a few of both, use all of either one) MR or mana-reg/lvl glyphs. FLAT AD quints. AD/lvl sucks donkey balls. Trust me on this. [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rune-tips-what-secondary-and-primary-means-and-more-24255]I made this shit after all.[/url][/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]ah yes, I have read it :) Problem is, I rarely have mana problems, so I do not want to use mana/5 runes. HP/lvl might be an option... I also do not feel the need of Armor or Magic Resist, if anyone comes to focus me I will die anyways, I prefer some extra attack. But well, I assume you put a lot of hard work and research into that guide, so I will surely consider your suggestions. I would like to know why you think AD/lvl runes suck, because I like them. I can agree that flat AD runes might be better. Also, flat AD quints > Armor Pen quints? Thanks for the reply :)[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Other options: [[Greater Seal of Clarity]] (AD carries don't usually built mp5) [[Greater Glyph of Focus]] shorter CD can be nice, but might cost you too much mana. [[Greater Quintessence of Desolation]] (better late game) Otherwise just go with Searz' suggestions. AD/lvl runes suck because by the time they actually scale up to "high" levels, the bonuses they give are so marginal that it barely makes any difference. If you want AD runes, the most you should get is flat AD quints.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=IceCreamy] Problem is, I rarely have mana problems, so I do not want to use mana/5 runes. I also do not feel the need of Armor or Magic Resist, if anyone comes to focus me I will die anyways, I prefer some extra attack.[/quote] If you don't want mana-reg then you should just get MR glyphs. They're not primarily for teamfights, they help a TON in the lane, that's why you'll want them. [quote]I would like to know why you think AD/lvl runes suck, because I like them.[/quote] Armor penetration is better in earlygame, midgame and lategame. AD/lvl runes are always worse than ArP runes. Why would you ever use them? [quote]Also, flat AD quints > Armor Pen quints?[/quote] On most carries that build crit items, yes. That includes Vayne and Caitlyn. AD quints give HUGE early damage and scales nicely with crit builds (unlike other builds). They fall off a little in mid/lategame, but that early advantage and the fact that it makes lasthitting easier is just too good to pass imo.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]okay, point taken. Im low on IP at the moment, but once I have enough I will change to: 9x Armor Pen Marks 9x Armor Seals 9x Magic Resist Glyphs 3x flat AD Quintessences OR 3x Armor Pen Quintessences Good like that? ;)[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Yes, those are all good :)[/quote]

[quote=Calibern][quote=Searz] Armor Pen marks. HP/lvl or armor seals. (don't run a few of both, use all of either one) MR or mana-reg/lvl glyphs. FLAT AD quints. AD/lvl sucks donkey balls. Trust me on this. [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/rune-tips-what-secondary-and-primary-means-and-more-24255]I made this shit after all.[/url] [/quote] This^^ except I would get Armor Pen Quints too. Who doesn't want 31 armor penetration at level one essentially doing true damage.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Because if you are [[Tristana]] and you want to lasthit...^^[/quote]

[quote=KevinGregg]flat ad with mana regen and apen reds[/quote]