Counter Picking Question

[quote=DuffTime]And also not understanding why the champs are strong at all or what makes them OP etc. Olaf is super strong right now. Orianna ult'd? Hmmm. Good thing I have 4k HP and 150+ MR, with good burst damage. And good thing her ult didnt fling me at all. I'm gonna walk through that and eat this Ashe I think... Yeah... I'm gonna do that.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Also yes Searz, I would expect Swain to hold a lane well with Jax. The one issue I'd have is that he might not shut Jax down early enough. A good Swain might, I wouldn't know o_O I would be concerned that it could turn into a free farm.[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]yep mord crushes jax pretty hard in lane^^ but i still dont think that jarv can rape jax early lvls if i play my jax vs any tanky chamion i dont jump in without counterstrike ready and usually with my runesetup i dead a ****load of damage. Maybe you just didnt play against a real good jax yet? idk im not a real good jax by all means lol but building his runes right is the key to winning your lane imo ad runes red and quint are the way to go and the dodge procs WILL hurt any physikal hero in lane a ton (8% dodge at lvl1) getting to almost 30% as the game goes on with dodgeboots if u decide to get them @duff: what elo do you play at? greez sam[/quote]

[quote=iViacho]It worked pretty good, but Cho'Gath top is actually a fairly good champ against Jax, because you can heal up from every minion kill and u can harass him with the Feral Scream every time he comes near you.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog]here's my replies: Nasus beats anybody, even jax, that's a melee ad champ. [[wither]] + ranged harass in [[spirit fire]] ect... however, is countered by ranged ap, especially mord, who is countered by mundo who also counters olaf and mundo is countered by 3 champs, exicutioner's calling, and ignite. and vayne counters alistar. just sayin. cho counters alistar-repeatable cc, more lane sustain, true dmg... but high burst/kog counters cho. there are my counters for you.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]^Even if that's not true, there is some truth in it. Nasus is STRONG if he doesn't get shut down early.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Nasus is a nice counter to most AA champions. If they can't DPS, they can't kill. If they're ranges, they're probably squishy and will go down easily if he withers them alone. Siphoning for 90% of Ezreal's HP is fun as he blinks towards my team.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I personally find that Nasus loses almost any solo top lane match up that there is =_= Nasus would beat Tryn in a solo though.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog][quote=DuffTime] I personally find that Nasus loses almost any solo top lane match up that there is =_= Nasus would beat Tryn in a solo though. [/quote] with the recent buff to his lifesteal, making it vastly larger early game, he's got a much better sustain. and part of that is because normal solo top is another off-tank, not a master-yi style. Jarvin IV, persay, won't care if he gets withered. he's still got his skills and a blink. but against a carry, it's no contest. and still, as i was saying, if it goes to a 1v1 of him versus say tryn or yi, a champ that almost entirely depends on auto-attacking for damage, i'd say that's what he wins. it's the people that have ad-scalling skills that use THOSE for damage and/or those that build tanky items that he has problems with. and those are rare in solo top.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog]^^ the melee aa's i mean.[/quote]