New to Veiger

[quote=TwixTrip09]I'm a semi-new player here. I've played for about 4 months maybe. Currently, I'm really enjoying Veigar, so if there are any other Veigar players out there, PM me and we can all get to know each other and compare strategies and such! --TwixTrip09 aka Twix[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I play Veigar on a semi-frequent basis. 3 main things to learn. [list] [*]1: Last hitting with Q is your main priority. [*]2: Land the stun ring like your life depended on it. Sometimes it does. [*]3: Learn to smart-cast your W. If you land the stun first and then [i] immediately[/i] use your W on that spot, it's a guaranteed hit. Welcome to the MOBAFire community too! :D[/quote]

[quote=Fox Rage]1. Welcome to MOBAFire community ^^ 2. I main Veigar, so i'll add and give you tips and advices if you need any :p IGN Fox Rage[/quote]

[quote=TwixTrip09]Thanks! I'm working on last hitting more frequently, and I'm getting better at it so that's a good thing :] I do have an issue with getting down W quick enough after the stun for it to hit. Like I'll throw down the stun and it'll hit, but I think I wait until they actually get stunned before I drop it and that might be the problem I'm having.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Dropping the stun ring on their face is your best option.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Veigar is one of my two main AP carries. I've had a lot of success with him and I'd be happy to talk about any strategies or builds you're interested in. I have a guide for him here on Mobafire as well, if you'd like to read it. I'm also friends with FoxRage and Lugignaf (the Moba community is pretty tight). Send me a PM, leave a comment on my guide or talk to me in-game if you have any questions for me. I'm usually in the LoL Mobafire chat room (just search Mobafire in the in-game client).[/quote]

[quote=TwixTrip09]I just checked out your guide Psi, I like it, but why do you max Baleful Strike so early? I know that it's really good for farming, but wouldn't maxing Dark Matter first be better?[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=TwixTrip09] I just checked out your guide Psi, I like it, but why do you max Baleful Strike so early? I know that it's really good for farming, but wouldn't maxing Dark Matter first be better? [/quote] Not at all, I've played veigar for quite a while and maxing your Q is your main priority, why? [list] [*] First, it is a spell you can't miss, opposed to [[Dark Matter]] which is very easy to dodge. [*] The higher rank, the easier to last hit. All the better. :) [*] The higher the rank, the more ap you will get when you get a champion kill. (it might not be much but it is something) [*] The mana cost and cooldown are both way lower. [/list] Taking extra points in [[Dark Matter]] is useful if you have to fight of a really powerful push.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]Oh by the way, welcome to the mobafire community. P.S. The first thing you should probably do is spell Veigar correctly. xD[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]+Rep GrandmasterD, you're absolutely right. In my skill order section I explain the reasons I max Q first, and the situations when you might want more points in W earlier. Both are viable skill orders, but I prefer maxing Q whenever possible since it's a lot more reliable and lets you snowball more easily (better harass too). But GrandmasterD pretty much summed it up. Read that section of my guide if you're still curious.[/quote]