Fiddle in the Middle?

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I need some advice on how to mid with Fiddle. I've decided I want to play Fiddle more (mainly because I bought his legendary skin, but also because he used to be one of my favorite champs and I'd forgotten how fun he is). First off....don't bother telling me I should be jungling with Fiddle because I don't really want to. I have yet to have any problems staying alive and harassing with [[dark wind]] early game. All my problems were after I hit 6 and started getting in teamfights. I was getting focused by the enemy team, because our team had no tank. I prolly shoulda waited on using my new skin (since I'm a little rusty), but it's alright as I did reasonably well given the circumstances. My build goes as follows: [[Doran's Ring]] (X2 usually) [[Sorcerer's Shoes]] [[Hextech Revolver]] [[Rod of Ages]] [[Will of the Ancients]] [[Abyssal Scepter]] or [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] (depending on the enemy team) [[Rabadon's Deathcap]] [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] Any suggestions?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I'm tempted to say skip revolver go straight to Catalyst. I feel revolver is redundant, Fiddle already heals soooooo much :P[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]hmmm I s'pose...though it means I can heal off of [[Dark Wind]] and [[Crowstorm]] too[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Fiddle is really lackluster in mid. He needs to land a lucky ult to win lane (lucky because everyone knows he's trying to ult from brush the moment he's lvl6).[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]Seems like a solid build, Similar to my own :o. (Except I usually get enough kills to skip a 2nd dorans ring) Advice? like give a specfic situation, I'll assume you waited until your team started fighting to ulti in, if you have zonhya and they go to immediately focus you obviously use that. Alot of it just comes with practice And I kinda know how you feel (I quit fiddles for the longest time and then played like 30-40 games with him two weeks ago, I also forgot how fun he was.) But Fiddles shouldn't immediately be in the teamfight, you should be a bit to the side, and wait for them to focus someone else before you enter. Because any player with half a brain will want to kill a fiddles before he [[crowstorm]]. Also, how do you level your skills? :o[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Mid I had no trouble, I easily harassed Kat really hard and she'd had to go back several times before I finally went back because I wanted boots. It didn't seem to matter where I was in fights tbh. If I ulted into a fight they could CC and burst me before I could even use a Zhonya's, we had no tank to keep them busy or get them off of anyone. I got a few kills by landing [[Terrify]] + [[Drain]] on enemies when they were trying to run, but short of that I felt pretty useless. EDIT: I usually start with [[Dark Wind]] and then grab a point each in [[Terrify]] & [[Drain]] before maxing it out. then I grab [[Terrify]] with another quick point in [[Drain]] before maxing that out. I grab [[Crowstorm]] whenever possible, usually maxing [[drain]] last.[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]That doesn't sound like your fault at all. The way it sounds to me, was that you just had a bad team comp :/ and as long as your fearing and silencing them, even if you can't get your ulti off You're helping lol. (But getting the ulti off and hitting more than 2 of them REALLY helps..) Edit: :o I see, I tend to max drain first, terrify second and dark winds last (Only putting one point in it at level 2, to qoute a guide I read somewhere at some point in time, long ago " it is a one-point wonder skill " And it really is.)[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Our Irelia was terrible. She fed top, lost two turrets, and she couldn't land a stun to save anyone's life (including her own). I max [[Dark Wind]] first because it's the best farming/harassing skill. as I said, I easily pushed Kat around early game. The main issue was the fact that I couldn't ult into a fight without dying before I could even get someone with a Q or W. While the damage on [[Drain]] is good it relies on your ability to keep them near enough to continue taking damage, hence why I max [[Terrify]] next. If the game is going really well I level them both equally.[/quote]

[quote=GrimmFate]Don't under estimate drains range, espically on a person like kat, who to do her best damage on you has to get close. If he shunpos, [[terrify]],[[drain]], wait till she's almost out of range on [[dark winds]] then let one fly. IT tends to work for me. and I rely heavily on drains damage. The only time I don't level it first is if I am against someone like Kassadin who can easily close the cap between us and silence me. (After 6 anyways).[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Fiddle cheap legendary skin: 1-2 fiddle every game and ppl start theorycrafting aout him o0.. Cant say i know how much use Dark Wind maxed first has, since ppl tend to max drain/terrify to combo their ulti. Normally against a champ with some disruption its pretty hopeless, if Drain is interrupted you wont have enough dmg before youre on cooldown. If youre lucky and able to hold your lane early, though, you only need a jungler + Terrify to gank every champ easily.[/quote]