Season 2 Summoner Spell Changes

[quote=Nighthawk]I think Surge might switch out for flash on some supports like Taric/Sona. It also seems like it would be good for FB, especially on someone like Veigar. Especially if the mastery point is the same. You would get like 50 AP @ lvl1 and that not only helps with q farm, him + sona would be so devestating for the other lane.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]If Surge keeps the AD/AP effect from Rally, it will replace Exhaust/Ignite on the respective champs, thus youll have it if Jax is in your team setup for example. Ofc only if its not totally UP.[/quote]

[quote=Cervance][Quote=Lugignaf] Honestly, I rarely use flash as an escape tool. 9 out of ten times, it's an initiate tool for me. [/quote] [quote=Darcurse] Thats how its intended to be used. Everything else is a result from spoiled positioning and missing map awareness/wards. In those rare cases where both parties did their damn best and one side could use Flash to avoid a certain but narrow defeat, it should be on CD anyway. [/quote] This is right. Wards + playing smart > Flash any day. I don't have to be passive in my lane at all when I have wards. Ghost is better than Flash for escaping when you have advanced notice of the gank. And it's not like Flash is ever gonna be bad, just go over the wall and profit.[/quote]

[quote=kaas]Gotta love all the Tyrnda's with cleanse whom I'm going to face when this goes live...[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=kaas] Gotta love all the Tyrnda's with cleanse whom I'm going to face when this goes live... [/quote] Executioner's Calling/Randuin's and friends will rise again!!! (Hope that will trigger a variety of item reworks/implements)[/quote]

[quote=Katjoesja]Swain with flash and ignite? Better pick cleanse and ignite now. I am forseeing new possibilities for supports now, with clairvoyance nerfs and heal buffs.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Semi supports could become more played(like [[lux]]), taking Surge for auras and buffed heal for healing that full supports give.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]My guess is the flash nerf is going to be overly dramatic....in terms of its range. To me this is basically one of those TF style nerfs. Make the spell about 80% less effective than it used to be and rather than reduce the number of people using it they're just simply making it unuseable. Riot once again in their "Infinite wisdom" WANTS to make the game more agressive, but instead make changes that will slow the game down. BRAVO. I've never loved a game so much and hated the thought process behind the descisions SOOO MUCH. (well except for maybe WoW) Promote will be worthless, Surge will be worthless, Heal change will be worthless. Cleanse will be LESS worthless. Overall just bad choices...Or at the least they sound bad on paper. As Phreak...Morello...Someone said "Don't underestimate the power of a 20HP [[Bloodlust]] at level 1...."[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Regarding Promote its very possible, that itll be totally useless, but dont kill the others off that easily. Maybe theyll add a usefull effect to Heal/maybe Cleanse will help Mundo and friends to rise again/maybe Surge will give you a proper option instead of Exhaust? At the very least everything will wind up totally UP or OP. For now, just be happy that they change spells which should be changed. The judging can be done afterwards.[/quote]

[quote=Stergioss]Cleanse SHOULD remove exhaust BUT not ignite! Exhaust is a debuff while [u]ignite is a DoT[/u] spell (Tryndamere is gonna get a OP buff -.-). Now about flash...i agree that it should have a greater cooldown but DONT NERF THE RANGE~! Simply don't. [u]It will destroy squishies[/u] and it allow players with built-in CC removers(Gangplank, Olaf..) to eliminate them while they don't have some way to escape! [Quote=Riot]Surge: New spell, provides a champion with an aura to increase team stats. (Replacement for Rally)[/Quote] Well only if it is mobile, it scales with champion level, and offers general stat increase. That would be pretty useful for supports.[/quote]