Ahri Patch Preview: Gameplay Changes

[quote=PsiGuard]"I PLAY MORELLO AS A JUNGLER"[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Seriously, if supports had to take farm to be as effective as they are now, they would never, ever be played again unless Riot buffed each and every one of them with completely batshit insane AP ratios.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]and why is that luther? theres always gonna be 2 people bot.[/quote]

[quote=LordAerthos]The TF changes are nice because his range was just abysmal before. Probably only something that regular TF players will notice since it sounds like a small range buff. Very nice all the same. The LS quints... I don't know. It's really going to boil down to how much lifesteal 3 quints provide. If it's something like +0.5% per quint I think it'll be okay. With the mastery and Doran's that's a little more than 7% at start, impressive but not crazy. If it's upwards of +1% per quint then I think we're looking at a problem because then we'll see champs with upwards of 10% lifesteal at start, and having that much really kind of negates the tradeoff for grabbing Doran's right away. FYI, by "tradeoff" I mean that if you grab any of the Doran's items right off the bat then you can't grab potions unless you took points in the mastery for bonus gold at start.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=caucheka] and why is that luther? theres always gonna be 2 people bot. [/quote] Yeah, but in a hypothetical situation where Riot changed the game to make farming mandatory, you might as well just send another AP carry or a tank instead of a support. The farm would be much more useful on them, and they mostly have similar amounts of CC.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=caucheka] and why is that luther? theres always gonna be 2 people bot. [/quote] naw, people have been doing duo top instead lately :p[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Crazy Smurf] [[Vladimir]] + [[Morgana]], I'm loving. I mean, imagine Vlad going for WoTA straight off. 25% Spell Vamp + 3 from Masteries + let's say 5 from Quints. 33% from a spammable Q... Woah... Vlad and Fate are back = Nejiji is back.[/quote] Funny thing is; the spell vamp mastery is pretty damn shitty right now. And no, you are wrong if you disagree on this one.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] I believe "hybrid pen" will simply provide half the ArP and half the Mpen that current marks+quints will. IE: ArP marks=12 ArP Mpen marks=12 Mpen so hybrid will be ~6arp/6mpen. Include quints and you'll be around 12mpen/arp over all? As for "no CS" supports. That is NOT the only way to play them. That is the way they are played because everyone thinks that the pros are infaulible with the metas they "develope" over time. [/quote] As far as I know they said for hybrid penetration runes that they will be better than half ArP/MrP. So example(NOT REAL DATA): if you get 5 Armor Penetration and 5 Magic Resistance Penetration from 9 marks, with hybrid penetration you'll get 6 of each. That means that they will be more viable for champions like Akali, Kayle and such that could benefit from hybrid pen, but it will be still better for AD to take only ArP and AP only MrP.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD][quote=Zoki] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] I believe "hybrid pen" will simply provide half the ArP and half the Mpen that current marks+quints will. IE: ArP marks=12 ArP Mpen marks=12 Mpen so hybrid will be ~6arp/6mpen. Include quints and you'll be around 12mpen/arp over all? As for "no CS" supports. That is NOT the only way to play them. That is the way they are played because everyone thinks that the pros are infaulible with the metas they "develope" over time. [/quote] As far as I know they said for hybrid penetration runes that they will be better than half ArP/MrP. So example(NOT REAL DATA): if you get 5 Armor Penetration and 5 Magic Resistance Penetration from 9 marks, with hybrid penetration you'll get 6 of each. That means that they will be more viable for champions like Akali, Kayle and such that could benefit from hybrid pen, but it will be still better for AD to take only ArP and AP only MrP. [/quote] I think you got the idea, but your numbers are wrong. You wouldnt get 6 of each, you would get 3 of each [b]for a total of 6 points[/b]. But yea, saying those would give half the actual value would be pointless because you would just have to put 4/5 of Arpen+MPen in order to reach the same result.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Lol what part of "So example(NOT REAL DATA)" before the numbers don't you understand? :P[/quote]