CURSE vs. SK Game Discussion

[quote=Nighthawk]Not a threat, because I can't lock things, just a warning :P[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Wintermond] Literally every character in the game can lane against literally everyone, and beat them in lane as long as they are not hard counters. [/quote] Fixed that for you. That's kind of the definition of a hard counter.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Supposedly ryze is a counter to ahri...yet I haven't lost to a ryze as ahri yet....and idk how this place got sooooo off topic[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Supposedly ryze is a counter to ahri...yet I haven't lost to a ryze as ahri yet....and idk how this place got sooooo off topic [/quote] Why? Ryze is shorter range, and has insane mana costs compared to Ahri. Ahri can just spam Q on the wave, and push ryze back to his tower.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]That's why I said "supposedly"[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Nah Ryze is one of best counters to Ahri. His DPS is huge buts that's not why. Ahri basicly needs mobility to success. What are you gonna do with your ultimate when you start popping and he just uses Q, cage, E and Q again? Also Ryze has click on target spells and Ahri has drag spells. So Ryze can just hide behind minions so she can't taunt and dodge her Q, while that doesn't work the other way around.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Every Ryze I've played so far attempted what you're talking about and failed miserably...There is of course the possible chance that my skill exceeded their's or some other factor isn't accounted for. IT SOUNDS good on paper, but practice is where it matters.[/quote]

[quote=omagma]Derpy[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Zoki] Nah Ryze is one of best counters to Ahri. His DPS is huge buts that's not why. Ahri basicly needs mobility to success. What are you gonna do with your ultimate when you start popping and he just uses Q, cage, E and Q again? Also Ryze has click on target spells and Ahri has drag spells. So Ryze can just hide behind minions so she can't taunt and dodge her Q, while that doesn't work the other way around. [/quote] 1. Ahri's Q, W, E all outrange Ryze's Q/W/E by at least 125 range. 2. Ahri has a significantly better auto attack animation for last hitting than ryze. 3. Ahri has built in sustain. 4. Ryze has mana problems. 5. Ryze can't last hit under tower, Ahri doesn't need to because she has high damage AoE spells that are low mana cost. There are 5 reasons why ahri beats ryze in lane.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Temzilla] 1. Ahri's Q, W, E all outrange Ryze's Q/W/E by at least 125 range. 2. Ahri has a significantly better auto attack animation for last hitting than ryze. 3. Ahri has built in sustain. 4. Ryze has mana problems. 5. Ryze can't last hit under tower, Ahri doesn't need to because she has high damage AoE spells that are low mana cost. There are 5 reasons why ahri beats ryze in lane. [/quote] 1; This might be valid for the match up. 2; That doesn't matter, even Anivia can farm if you know how. 3; Ryze has better sustain for fighting, which means a lot. Ahri's is good for long wars of attrition. 4; Ryze has mana problems wut. 5; I think Ryze can last hit well enough under tower personally o:[/quote]