Lee Sin on bot lane - Problem?

[quote=GrandmasterD]Ok, I'm ready to ask you guys about this. I've done it a couple of times now: AD [[Lee Sin]] in the bot lane! Every time I've played it, I've won the lane with ease. Ahead in both kills and farm, however still not sure if it is that good or not. Pros: [list] [*] He's got great AD Scalings, let's abuse those! [*] No carry in the bot lane can face him 1v1. Therefore you got the stronger lane. [*] A carry who can save himself. [*] A carry who has self sustain. [*] A carry who doesn't need the [[Berserker's Greaves]] per se. [/list] Cons: [list] [*] Can't initiate a teamfight because he's too damn squishy. [*] Lacks ranged harassment. [*] Requires an aggressive support. [*] Requires a completely different playstyle. [/list] So what do you guys think? Personally I feel its really viable.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]As long as you don't buy [[Boots of Swiftness]] and 5x [[The Bloodthirster]]... I think it should be okay, probably guys like [[Talon]], [[Pantheon]] and [[Wukong]] might work as well.[/quote]

[quote=BarbJ]I don't know Nick. Stop avoiding me, play a game with me, and we'll try it :P[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]The thing is you [i]have[/i] to win your lane. Also, in late game he'll just be squishy and can't stay back like ranged carries. It has worked for you/us a couple of times, but there's no real reason to pick him over ranged champs. EDIT: What would you build? only [[The Bloodthirster]]s?[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]I play Lee Sin mid. Swain, LeBlanc,...? No problem.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Wayne3100] The thing is you [i]have[/i] to win your lane. Also, in late game he'll just be squishy and can't stay back like ranged carries. It has worked for you/us a couple of times, but there's no real reason to pick him over ranged champs. EDIT: What would you build? only [[The Bloodthirster]]s? [/quote] The only bloodthirster build is just for fun wayne. The actual build probably includes one or two [[The Bloodthirster]]s, an [[Infinity Edge]], [[Wriggle's Lantern]], [[Ninja Tabi]]/[[Mercury's Treads]], [[Last Whisper]] and maybe a [[Phantom Dancer]][/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Panth/Lee/Wukong/Garen/Talon + Janna bot=sex[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Ranged carries who can sit behind minions disagree with this....It would prove useful if the opposition didnt harass you...But you're melee so they would. I could see it working, but at the same time I think it could be easily countered.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Ranged carries who can sit behind minions disagree with this....It would prove useful if the opposition didnt harass you...But you're melee so they would. I could see it working, but at the same time I think it could be easily countered. [/quote] Since lee has two dashes (i.e. [[Sonic Wave / Resonating Strike]] and [[Safeguard / Iron Will]]) he decides when to fight and when not to. Also, since [[Tempest / Cripple]] is an AoE spell, he can easily dash to the minions in front of the carry and slow the carry down.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][[Lee Sin]] strong no doubt, but support [[Yorick]] says hello. *Edit: Any real aggressive support is going to be trouble for you. [[Taric]] and [[Alistar]] come to mind.[/quote]