So i undersdood some people here right?
They would rather buy a Game for 50€ that has real-life graphics and all you do is picking up a stone and throw it, rather then something like Fallout New Vegas, Dwarf Fortress, 99% of all Atlu's Games, Minecraft, Disgaea etc.
They would rather buy a Game for 50€ that has real-life graphics and all you do is picking up a stone and throw it, rather then something like Fallout New Vegas, Dwarf Fortress, 99% of all Atlu's Games, Minecraft, Disgaea etc.
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1. Luther isn't alone with that opinion.
2. It's not those who make the games who are able to say if the games are good or not.
3: 90% of the gaming community spam insults, troll and only care for themselves, this doesn't mean It's right to do so.
4: Graphic is important, depending on what kind of game it is. Tho all players have different opinions what's important.
5: Actually the whole gaming community don't agree with you Canoas, there are at least 40% who don't give a **** about graphics. And for you, those people are ******s.
90%? 40%? please enlighten me how you got those numbers.
Also, it's those who make games that know best what is important for a game to be successful. If they didn't know what's important then their games wouldn't be good at all. It's idiotic to say otherwise.
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Yukimaru wrote:
So i undersdood some people here right?
They would rather buy a Game for 50€ that has real-life graphics and all you do is picking up a stone and throw it, rather then something like Fallout New Vegas, Dwarf Fortress, 99% of all Atlu's Games, Minecraft, Disgaea etc.
No, you did not. No one so far as said anything of the sort.
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So if the same game was made with better graphics the new version would be worse than the 15 year old game? Please explain me how that works.
Megaman series.
Also, less they work on the graphics, more time they have to work on important things like gameplay, story(which I don't care about so much), gimmicks in said gameplay. The list goes on. Not everyone is a "60 FPS, HD only" gamer these days.
Hell, I prefer the old 8-bit and 16-bit games that I never got to play when growing up because they play well, they get things across without ten billion flashing lights on your HUD(which was unneeded back then) and people were actually smart enough to figure things out without a tutorial.
Ya know what else? They read the damn manual. You know what manuals are today? A folded in half piece of paper. They don't need much else because they repeat the damn directions over and over and over in the game. They don't let you move on until you can get it perfect either! HOW THE **** IS THAT A GAME!?
Believe me. I will go on a 10 paragraph gamer rant if you really want me to. I will give you the whole "X game is better than the entire Y series because of Z gimmick" rant if you really want me to. Go ahead, make me do it. It's not like I have anything else set up for today.
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While i wont say graphics should be completly ignored, i hate it that the game-industry focus on graphics more then gameplay, i mean its a GAME!!! the most important part is Gameplay (and in case of a RPG, Story), besides that the next-gen gamer's are such *****'s cuz most games nowadays are so friggin easy, but luckily we still have Japan who does their **** in games right.
I dunno about FFVI, but I know Skyrim isn't very good, lawl.
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It's all up to the individual gamer. When speaking of older games, it's obvious that you're looking at the gameplay almost alone in order to determine how good the game is, however today, graphics simply are an important factor. Everything is HQ now. As TV became better and better in quality, of course the games should as well, even if they took a little longer becoming stronger in the graphics department. I love the fact that you get blinded by the sun in a game such as Uncharted 3, and I love just looking around in a game like Skyrim. For me, gameplay suddenly becomes less important, since I have something shiny and beautiful to look at, while playing the game.
Hell, it could be about finding special sorts of flowers and decorating a home out of things found in a forest, as long as the forest is well made, and is beautiful as hell. Graphics combined with music especially I think, are very much pretty much of the same value to the game as a whole, as the gameplay and challenges themselves are.
I'll just stop now, I bet there are plenty of things to comment on in the text above. That's just me, writing my mind out.
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Hell, it could be about finding special sorts of flowers and decorating a home out of things found in a forest, as long as the forest is well made, and is beautiful as hell. Graphics combined with music especially I think, are very much pretty much of the same value to the game as a whole, as the gameplay and challenges themselves are.
I'll just stop now, I bet there are plenty of things to comment on in the text above. That's just me, writing my mind out.
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So the new megaman are exactly the same game as the old ones but the better graphics make them worse? Hmm, didn't know that.
And how do they have more time to work on the gameplay if they don't work on the graphics? If they don't work on the graphics then they'll ship the game sooner. They don't put the designers working on the story or gameplay just because they finished their work faster. It does not work like that.
Wow, you really prefer 8-bit and 16-bit games to current ones? Why are you even here then? Doesn't the fact that you play LoL prove you don't?
Please, go on that 10 paragrapher rant.
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Why exactly isn't Skyrim good? It was the game of the year for a reason.
So the new megaman are exactly the same game as the old ones but the better graphics make them worse? Hmm, didn't know that.
And how do they have more time to work on the gameplay if they don't work on the graphics? If they don't work on the graphics then they'll ship the game sooner. They don't put the designers working on the story or gameplay just because they finished their work faster. It does not work like that.
Wow, you really prefer 8-bit and 16-bit games to current ones? Why are you even here then? Doesn't the fact that you play LoL prove you don't?
Please, go on that 10 paragrapher rant.
@Searz
Why exactly isn't Skyrim good? It was the game of the year for a reason.
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I like the part where the discussion was lost when people had two different opinions that aren't debatable and they still tried to argue the point. Not that there was a discussion in the first place.
It's not two people who had different opinions. It's all the people who make games vs luther. No matter what I think, if you say "I know more about games that the creators of my favourite games" then you're simply wrong.