Hecarim Theory Craftan

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Get Spirit Visage instead of FoN, Swiftness Boots, Tri Force, IE, PD or Blood Thirster :D Never get caught, DPS all day, never die, BAYLIFE[/quote]

[quote=Sujing]What about [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]]?[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]It was already mentioned. Hecarim in Dominion is OP. I mean wtf Riot, dem speed shrines. AND AoE disruptions AND massive damage.[/quote]

[quote=Eternis Requiem]So, would this be a good order of building: Boots, pots... Sheen, B.F., Zeal, IE, PD, TF, Atmogs And/or swap Atmogs in after the zeal if you need the health? Also, what do you guys like to level first? Q or E? I'm thinking Q-E-W for general order if you lane. IIRC, maybe putting some points intermittently into E because it reduces CD (Is that right? I can't recall off the top of my head).[/quote]

[quote=viper459]tanky initiator build feels awesome so far, good damage for that role too i've been using [[boots of speed]] >[[philosopher's stone]] > [[mercury's treads]] + [[glacial shroud]] + [[zeal]] finish [[trinity force]],[[shurelya's reverie]],[[frozen heart]], Build [[Force of nature]] + [[warmog's armor]] as needed my experience so far: philo gives you mana enough to spam q , when you max it it is all you need to kill, i max w second because i build CDR and mana anyway, deals good damage in midgame too. with maxed CDR the CD on Q is like 1,2 seconds, and you have 50% uptime on the life-leech Aoe skill. e seems more of a one-point wonder though some people see W as this.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]ewww rushing philo as a non support? Well, it's truly up to you how you want to build, but I'd rather get some damage or defense first over all out sustain.[/quote]

[quote=Jpikachu1999][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] ewww rushing philo as a non support? Well, it's truly up to you how you want to build, but I'd rather get some damage or defense first over all out sustain. [/quote] Isn't the whole concept of rushing a [[Wriggle's Lantern]] for sustain? It gives damage, true, but it's main purpose is usually for the lifesteal. Besides, it's for the GP/10 and it builds into Shurelya's. You can go a damage item or [[zeal]] right after it. I believe [[Irelia]] rushes philo, but I'm not 100% sure. Also, so does [[Wukong]]. If you're gonna build it, you should rush it to get the most out of it. Also, many build it because of the need for mana regen.[/quote]

[quote=viper459]that was pretty much the point. it wasn't all that long ago rushing philo + hog was the norm for tops, there's no reason to say it wouldn't work at all. i've just found he needs the regen, and to be honest, i absolutely 100% want to build shurelya's on this hero, so that's the biggest reason .[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]boots of mobility, trinity force, phantom dancer, force of nature, shurelia's reverie + whatever you need? ghost+flash and movement speed quints. LOL[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Jpikachu1999] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] ewww rushing philo as a non support? Well, it's truly up to you how you want to build, but I'd rather get some damage or defense first over all out sustain. [/quote] Isn't the whole concept of rushing a [[Wriggle's Lantern]] for sustain? It gives damage, true, but it's main purpose is usually for the lifesteal. Besides, it's for the GP/10 and it builds into Shurelya's. You can go a damage item or [[zeal]] right after it. I believe [[Irelia]] rushes philo, but I'm not 100% sure. Also, so does [[Wukong]]. If you're gonna build it, you should rush it to get the most out of it. Also, many build it because of the need for mana regen. [/quote] rushing philo's for [[Ireia]] is a matter of who is she laning against. If it's yorick, she can't afford wasting her time with a philo's... she should get [[Wriggle's Lantern]] if she want's to outsustain him (if such thing is possible) -.-'[/quote]