Garen ideas?

[quote=PFP]After the newest patch it got slightly better, but since the removal of the Garen's base damage scaling with Judgement it sucks and doesn't do nearly as much damage at level 1 as it used to. Play him AD/DPS for fun (see DEWO's build) but there are much better champions to play the roles of tanky DPS or melee DPS.[/quote]

[quote=Sp1ll sucks]I have the urge to play ap/spell vamp Garen.[/quote]

[quote=Booshido]so goes like boots phage boots brutilzer giant's>sunfire giant's > mallet > atma's > phantomdancer > youmuu's. its pretty awesome[/quote]

[quote=Searz]It was a well needed nerf. It now scales how it should(I think).[/quote]

[quote=TheGluttony][quote=PFP] After the newest patch it got slightly better, but since the removal of the Garen's base damage scaling with Judgement it sucks and doesn't do nearly as much damage at level 1 as it used to. Play him AD/DPS for fun (see DEWO's build) but there are much better champions to play the roles of tanky DPS or melee DPS. [/quote] Sounds kinda harsh imho, he isn't exactly useless all of a sudden right? ( right? :P ) I'll have to agree that he isn't a tank and there are definitly better champions to play for melee dps. But imho he is still viable as Beefy Dps, he still has that crazy ult, silence, shield and a ( nerfed ) "aoe". I have to say i have a kinda Jack of All Trades but Master of None idea of him now. There are better choices now he isn't imba anymore but i'll probably still play him because i like his playstyle.[/quote]

[quote=Sp1ll sucks]Today I tried zanotti's Garen tank build and I dominated.[/quote]

[quote=bcrules82]I'm new to the game (lvl 8) and started using Garen last night because he's free this week, and he was destroying minions from the beginning and groups of champions during the end-game. I'm pretty sure lifesteal was working with Judgement, because I was always recouping health by Judgement farming with Vampire Sceptor.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Judgment definitely does not proc Vampiric Scepter. It might have been your passive.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]I'm pretty curious to see how someone could make Garen a viable DPS now. I'm thinking something with a bit of [[hexdrinker]] [[frozen mallet]] [[banshee's veil]] [[sunfire cape]] [[the bloodthirster]] [[atma's impaler]] would give him a bunch of AD with some nice armor, MR, and health. Not in that order, obviously, but I'll let the Garen experts sort that one out.[/quote]

[quote=Zanotti][quote=Sp1ll sucks] Today I tried zanotti's Garen tank build and I dominated. [/quote] Glad you like it brother.[/quote]