pro singed players

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Psychofrench] I just picked him up as well and find him fun as hell (I thought he was gonna be boring, quite frankly). I just noticed that I tend to build him differently than most of the top guides, usually going with [[Rod of Ages]], [[Lich Bane]] and [[Archangel's Staff]], not necessarily in that order. I haven't played a lot of PVPs yet, but didn't do too shabby on the few I did. [/quote] Dafuuuuuuuq???? I mean, I [i]could[/i] understand Archengel's because of the passive, but Lich Bane? Man, that's alrigh if you wanna be an AP carry, but ROA, FoN, Rylay, Rab, shit is the way to go[/quote]

[quote=wengthemeng][quote=FalseoGod] [quote=Psychofrench] I just picked him up as well and find him fun as hell (I thought he was gonna be boring, quite frankly). I just noticed that I tend to build him differently than most of the top guides, usually going with [[Rod of Ages]], [[Lich Bane]] and [[Archangel's Staff]], not necessarily in that order. I haven't played a lot of PVPs yet, but didn't do too shabby on the few I did. [/quote] Dafuuuuuuuq???? I mean, I [i]could[/i] understand Archengel's because of the passive, but Lich Bane? Man, that's alrigh if you wanna be an AP carry, but ROA, FoN, Rylay, Rab, shit is the way to go [/quote] If it was a choice between AA and Lich Bane, I think Lich Bane would actually be a more viable choice. You have to look at a few factors when building AA: -you're assuming that it'll have it's +1000 mana, but you should have an idea how long that'll take. It's not that easy to build an AA with Singed. Singed's Q doesn't build it up, so it'll only be his W and E and minutely his R. With that being said, if you wanna build your Tear up, it'll have to be one of your starting items which drastically puts you at a downfall cause you'll be late in getting your RoA or something like that. Even champions like Urgot or Ryze can go a 25 minute game without their Tear being maxed out despite their spammable abilities. Just think about how it'll be for Singed. Lich Bane, on the other hand, once you have it, it's at its full potential. It gives MR AND Speed, which is something Singed can benefit from greatly. You may not realize it, but Singed auto attacks quite often. When you fling an enemy behind you and he's about to die, I'm sure that's when you'll start your auto attacking. On my Singed, I build a mix of Mpen and Atk Damage runes. My attack damage runes are OP early game when champs up top try to 1v1 me. In reality though, both items are terrible.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]How is lich bane terrible lmfao, free mr, mana for hp, movespeed, ap for q and e (and you get a free auto whenever you e somebody for the lichbane proc). Also if you don't build rylai's on singed just uninstall. Singed is ridiculously op, its just less then .5% of this community plays him correctly.[/quote]

[quote=Machineae]I came in here expecting something beautiful and amazing- finally some talking about one of my favorite champs! No! I hate 90% of you guys.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Then shed a light on him instead of complaints?[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]yea. welcome to league.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=wengthemeng] [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Psychofrench] I just picked him up as well and find him fun as hell (I thought he was gonna be boring, quite frankly). I just noticed that I tend to build him differently than most of the top guides, usually going with [[Rod of Ages]], [[Lich Bane]] and [[Archangel's Staff]], not necessarily in that order. I haven't played a lot of PVPs yet, but didn't do too shabby on the few I did. [/quote] AA and Lich are terrible on singed. Rylai's and WotA are good ap items. FoN, FH and randuins are good tank items. Gp10 works also good on him in lane [/quote] I agree that AA and lich are bad on singed. I'm against Rylai's on Singed as well though because: The point of Singed is that you WANT people to chase you. If you get Rylai's they're definitely not gonna chase you anymore; it's just instinct. I never get Rylais on Singed; however, RoA is always a must. [/quote] Not buying [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] because you want people to chase you is the biggest noob trap ever. Some situations: [list] [*] Your team tries to run away, but no, you didn't bought [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]] and your team gets caught. [*] You try to chase someone and hold him in place until [[fling]] and [[mega adhesive]] are back up, but no, you didn't bought [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]]. [*] You try to slow their whole team by running around them so your team has a big advantage, but no, you didn't bought [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]].[/list] For me, [[rylai's crystal scepter]] is the most important [[singed]] item in the game (which I also exlain at my guide). [[archangel's staff]] and [[lich bane]] are both medicore on [[singed]], but there are better items for him. In my build, [[archangel's staff]] would replace [[rod of ages]] and [[lich bane]] would replace [[rabadon's deathcap]], but I think, RoA+Rabadon's are both better.[/quote]

[quote=Anastasios]I build him tanky AP carry. RoA+Rylai's+Abyssal+Zhonya's+Rabadons. Run in, poison everyone, [[fling]] for 1k damage, activate zhonyas for maximum trolling.[/quote]

[quote=Psychofrench]I love the input in here. I indeed go for [[Rod of Ages]] first usually. I also wanted to add more speed, which is why I tried [[Lich Bane]]. I really thought [[Archangel's Staff]] would be great on him, since he already benefits grandly from a large mana pool by turning it into HP, he could also turn it into more AP. I guess I'm going to experiment more, I really enjoy his trolling powers.[/quote]

[quote=Psychofrench][quote=wengthemeng] -you're assuming that it'll have it's +1000 mana, but you should have an idea how long that'll take. It's not that easy to build an AA with Singed. Singed's Q doesn't build it up, so it'll only be his W and E and minutely his R. [/quote] I didn't realize his Q didn't build it, my noobish error.[/quote]