"Noob" help - How to deal with noob...

[quote=Keltocdragon]Moar sustain/damage would have had you snowballing in no time, well after leveling some you would be wrecking all three of them having a better late game than those three.[/quote]

[quote=Blowfeld]Well, getting dived by 3 people can be hard at tower, especially if they have a big minion advantage. Even if you are ahead in lvl, at a certain point of the game they can lock you down easily, share a few tower hits and kill you without dying, if none of your teammmembers comes to help. If you feel they want to dive you and you got a minion/life disadvantage, fall back, as they will not only kill you but then easily hurt the tower anyway. Some people here need to remember that at lvl 6 reading the game is quite harder and much different than from an experienced player point of few. (I am looking at you, Keltocdragon ;)[/quote]

[quote=zlet0]You really helped me out !!! Next games I played, I was 2nd of my team, then 1st. Last game, I got killed twice because of a disconnection (I attacked a hero and tried to back off. Disconnected, Irelia went for the hero Auto-A ON, I couldn't control her. Killed the opponent but finished with one tower shooting at me and two dudes ^^) Got angry on the two losts because I killed like 12 and died 2. !! This is thanks to your help ! Item lists: [quote]Mercury's Treads[/quote] ==> Must have. Combined with Irealias Anti CC passive it's very efficient. [quote]Philosopher's Stone[/quote] ==> Still have it when opponents too hard. [quote]Heart of Gold[/quote] ==> As you say, can become randuin. [quote]Wriggle's Lantern[/quote] ==> Got it. In the last games didn't go for it as I was leveling faster than them. Last (best) game, got 280 creeps. ^^ (long game ^^) [quote]Warden's Mail[/quote] ==> Didn't checked that one yet. Do you think it's better than WARMOG? [quote]The reason I suggested Vampiric Scepter was 1) It builds into Wriggle's Lantern (which you only really need if you are behind), 2) In a 1v3 you need pretty much all the sustain you can get.[/quote] ==> Got it. I'll test this one next battle see how it fits. Mercury's Treads Wit's End ==> Don't really understands what makes it as interesting. All guides tell I should have it (and I did last game) Seems powerfull but don't really got why this more than another. Trinity Force ==> Absolutely. Got it last game. Guardian Angel ==> Alo a big need for a close range fighter ^^ The Bloodthirster ==> test next game ;) Randuin's Omen ==> Yup, become more tanky. Some advise Frozen heart instead. (Downside : Does not come from HoG) [quote]Hope that helped a bit, and have fun playing Irelia :3[/quote] ==> Helped alot ^^ Game much better when you feel that you rock (a bit ^^) :) @DragonLOL: [quote]Imo 1vs3 is winnable, because you can just get experience without creeps, and they stand no chance because you will scale a lot better (they get 30% experience~ because they share the lane, and you get 100%.)[/quote] Do I gain experience "doing nothing" ? getting creeps is very hard and risky because I have to dive them 3. So i get exposed to their bursts extremely dangerous early game. GAREN does freakin' damage with his spin attack. [quote]Also they should push a lot. So what happens? You get free farm under turret and they cannot dive irelia, and after 6 you can actually start harassing or oneshoting some lvl 3 squishies.[/quote] This is the difference between a good player like you and a noob like me ^^ They did pushed the lane to my tower, but event there, I wasn't really useful. Everytime I approached, they dived all 3 at me, killing 3/4 of health bar at once. Just didn't got the balls to keep fighting and backed off. Then again, recoreving HP and waiting :( Now with the opportunity of HoG and Philosopher I'm good. Even when I feel a bit behind, I know I don't have to rush them. Also killed some golems to "do something". Again, big thanks. It's not an easy game at all. But feels cool when you get it. Also, I'm way more careful on my creeping. I use pots from the beginning, and of course, I'm starting to have a good feeling of Irelia. I watched some ranked games with Irelia, and she can do well as a fight ender thanks to its close gap Q / stun E and Phage. It it flees or get under tower, still got R to fire upon him. Really, not an easy champ early game but very good from mid game and still useful late game. Love her ^^ Also I found that if I reach 6 before they do, I can really harass them hard. Then, I gain XP / GP faster, really feels good if I make a good start and dont get too greegy ^^[/quote]

[quote=DRAGONLOL11]Feel free to add zajonc6666 on skype or as i said add me in game :) You gain exp just for being in range of creeps, which is quite big (find it yourself :P).[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Keep in mind that at very low levels of play, guides usually help you to understand how to play the champion and what items to buy. Outplaying your opponent is what wins games. Don't worry too much about specifics at this point, I would actually recommend sticking with a solid, general purpose build and working within that to start with. You can learn to build situationally later. Also I find it hilarious and awesome that you guys won that 3v5, bravo.[/quote]

[quote=zlet0]Thanks, will follow these recommendations. Yup, don't really remember what the guy did, but he REALLY crushed bot lane all by himself. Actually, I think it was like 3 top / 1 mid and 1 bot. So he crushed the one BOT, never letting him level UP. Then, we (2 low dudes) kept the base safe. The opponents were destroying the inhibitors and they felt like "totally winning". Invading like hell. Game lasted quite long. MAP was like All top towers OK for them. All destroyed for US. Same for MID. Just BOT, all won by our guy alone. As we were defending hard our base (towers / bots everywhere) we managed to kill these champs somehow, putting them back. Strategy was 1st rush to damage. Get back to center (where you heal fast) and then rush again to kill. Irina's close gap is excellent for this, with true damage she has a kool burst. Leaving clear path to BOT dude, which I must say, had a quite good gameplay compared to ours. But yeah, finally, I thought we'll loose the game and saw the opponent's Nexus destroyed. That was a shock :D (Good one) PS: Last game with Irelia yesterday. Champs switched and I dont have enough points to get my girl. But really starting to nail her pretty well. She's incredible ^^ like her much. Now playin' Jax. [has no sustain compared to Irelia and no anti CC]. But late game, Jax seems to be a total freak !! @_@ reading guides again ^^ (saving for Irelia which is incredibly expensive ... girlz ... -_-")[/quote]