Some thoughts about Season 3?

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Vapora Dark] Any chance of AD carries suddenly going mid again? Afk farm as Trist mid = easy. Afk farm at bot vs Draven & Blitz = hard. VERY HARD. I like all the changes I've been hearing about in this thread anyways. [/quote] idk about them going mid, but it sounds to me like there will be more chances for them to go top atleast, as well as more tanks may have to to go top, or bot as a support. The support item changes may allow more tanks than just [[leona]] to do it effectively. I was reading a post from Stonewall and he thinks many tanks like [[Nautilus]] and [[Shen]] will suffer in the new jungle because they are already so sluggish in S2. But maybe we'll see a shift from a true "meta" and more characters will leave their "home" lanes from S2.[/quote]

[quote=bsurma]I really like the Season 3 changes for the jungle and the season 3 masteries. This will encourage people to try new things out and possibly make some old junglers happy, like WW or [[fiddlesticks]]. I'd love to see some play from champions like [[tryndamere]] or [[fiora]]. Maybe the mastery changes will help them. And also, they should really do something about [[sion]] because he's just left behind. He's like a Season 1 champion that has suddenly been put into a new line-up. Also, the new Season 3 UI is going to be awesome. Probably.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I agree, [[Sion]] is in more of a poor spot than melee AD carries. He gets kited terribly, and only moronic teams would stand there and fight him in his ult if he's AD. As AP his spot is better filled by [[Twisted Fate]]. I hope they rebirth him as more of a true bruiser, and not a character that functions as a half assed burst mage or a terrible melee carry.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][[Fortify]] for laning [[Rammus]]!! also, there are 2 many champs not viable these days...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Vapora Dark] WASTE GOLD EVERY TIME YOU RECALL OR DIE. [/quote] I'm sorry, what? I'm pretty sure having vision is not a waste of money. Spend 75-150 gold, save yourself from giving 300 to the enemy.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Vapora Dark] WASTE GOLD EVERY TIME YOU RECALL OR DIE. [/quote] I'm sorry, what? I'm pretty sure having vision is not a waste of money. Spend 75-150 gold, save yourself from giving 300 to the enemy. [/quote] i argue it may depend on the jungler and where you put said ward? sometimes if feels just way better not to farm...[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I would say [[sion]] is actually the best meele ad-carry because he gains free HP, which makes him way more tanky than others and that combined with a good shield. The rest just instantly dies if you look at them.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=NicknameMy] I would say [[sion]] is actually the best meele ad-carry because he gains free HP, which makes him way more tanky than others and that combined with a good shield. The rest just instantly dies if you look at them. [/quote] he gets killed easier because he has no escape or gap closer. He just gets kited around like a moron until they kill him.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Are there definite changes out yet?[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]As regards to unconventional things/AD mid or top, I really don't think jungle changes will affect things to that extent. Usually changes like that are by higher Elo players that figure out a new dominant strat and abuse it until it becomes widespread and popular. Forcing armor and not allowing boot start again would be terrific, would reduce gank potency by quite a bit (sux for junglers tho ;c) some champs still wouldn't need it though, I think. I do think above all these changes, if they go as stated/predicted, will increase the potency of junglers that still have pretty strong ganks but clear fast and can use farm really well -- Mundo, Shyvana, Skarner, Nocturne, and Hecarim come to mind.[/quote]