Dunno what I'm gonna do with my Veigar build when this goes live. Might even rush athene's or something just for lane security and farming purposes. Athenes->Deathcap?
Do you guys think DFG will still be viable as a late game item (on some casters) or should I/we just let it drop and build something else instead?
Do you guys think DFG will still be viable as a late game item (on some casters) or should I/we just let it drop and build something else instead?

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Morello said on the forums they're going to be adding in/changing something for burst casters and he mentioned Veigar specifically as someone who would be 'worse off for maybe a patch or two' (not exact quote) because of the DFG nerfs.
So I'd wait until the season 3 patch and check out the new items or whatever first. Personally I think DFG is basically removed from the game.
So I'd wait until the season 3 patch and check out the new items or whatever first. Personally I think DFG is basically removed from the game.
OTGBionicArm wrote:
DFG was too staple on every mage. Too OP. So was Atmas to bruisers last year. It was needed. Skarner changes necessary? I guess he was banned a lot in the tourny, but Im not sure.
I think

Luther3000 wrote:
Morello said on the forums they're going to be adding in/changing something for burst casters and he mentioned Veigar specifically as someone who would be 'worse off for maybe a patch or two' (not exact quote) because of the DFG nerfs.
So I'd wait until the season 3 patch and check out the new items or whatever first. Personally I think DFG is basically removed from the game.
I dont think so how will tanks deal with high hp targets do you know why this item was made?
cooper56 wrote:
I dont think so how will tanks deal with high hp targets do you know why this item was made?
I didn't quite understand what you said. But did you just insinuate tanks get DFG to deal with other tanks?
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but it was still nerfed pretty much just for evelynn.
Yeah eve got hit.
But this wrecks veigar.
It also wrecks my kass,ahri,TF build i use atm
And maybe AP teemo and morde.
And on a side note.
Is it just me or riot did wrong calculations?
DFG is 25%+4% per 100AP magic damage.
Not 20%+4% per 100 AP Riot stated.
It's now 15%+5% per 100 AP.
That means you need a freaking 1000AP to make it stronger than the old DFG
Edit: DAT VLADIMIR SPLASH