PBE Update from last night; Lots of new stuff!

[quote=TxTVira][quote=Temzilla] [quote=OTGBionicArm] DFG was too staple on every mage. Too OP. So was Atmas to bruisers last year. It was needed. [/quote] but it was still nerfed pretty much just for evelynn. [/quote] Yeah eve got hit. But this wrecks veigar. It also wrecks my kass,ahri,TF build i use atm And maybe AP teemo and morde. And on a side note. Is it just me or riot did wrong calculations? DFG is 25%+4% per 100AP magic damage. Not 20%+4% per 100 AP Riot stated. It's now 15%+5% per 100 AP. That means you need a freaking 1000AP to make it stronger than the old DFG Edit: DAT VLADIMIR SPLASH[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]dfg rush was the strongest for any burst caster[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Embracing] dfg rush was the strongest for any burst caster [/quote] Not really[/quote]

[quote=AyushGarg]I still dont understand why the had to nerf DFG. Veigar's burst has just gone down by quite a notch :/[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Dunno what I'm gonna do with my Veigar build when this goes live. Might even rush athene's or something just for lane security and farming purposes. Athenes->Deathcap? Do you guys think DFG will still be viable as a late game item (on some casters) or should I/we just let it drop and build something else instead?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Morello said on the forums they're going to be adding in/changing something for burst casters and he mentioned Veigar specifically as someone who would be 'worse off for maybe a patch or two' (not exact quote) because of the DFG nerfs. So I'd wait until the season 3 patch and check out the new items or whatever first. Personally I think DFG is basically removed from the game.[/quote]

[quote=AyushGarg]By the way, whats everyones opinions on Elisa? She looks fun to play :3[/quote]

[quote=KSS Awake][quote=OTGBionicArm] DFG was too staple on every mage. Too OP. So was Atmas to bruisers last year. It was needed. Skarner changes necessary? I guess he was banned a lot in the tourny, but Im not sure. [/quote] I think [[skarner]] was banned when a team wanted to run more of a poke composition so they avoid a hard initator.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56][quote=Luther3000] Morello said on the forums they're going to be adding in/changing something for burst casters and he mentioned Veigar specifically as someone who would be 'worse off for maybe a patch or two' (not exact quote) because of the DFG nerfs. So I'd wait until the season 3 patch and check out the new items or whatever first. Personally I think DFG is basically removed from the game. [/quote] I dont think so how will tanks deal with high hp targets do you know why this item was made?[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=cooper56] [quote=Luther3000] Morello said on the forums they're going to be adding in/changing something for burst casters and he mentioned Veigar specifically as someone who would be 'worse off for maybe a patch or two' (not exact quote) because of the DFG nerfs. So I'd wait until the season 3 patch and check out the new items or whatever first. Personally I think DFG is basically removed from the game. [/quote] I dont think so how will tanks deal with high hp targets do you know why this item was made? [/quote] I didn't quite understand what you said. But did you just insinuate tanks get DFG to deal with other tanks?[/quote]