Countered in-lane for the second time, and won again. Difference is that this time I crushed it hard, rather than went 3/0 in 20 minutes.
Also, I should start screenshotting this kind of stuff and shoving it in people's faces when they say Talon is a ks champ, all the graphs I've checked the past few games have been something like this.
Also, I should start screenshotting this kind of stuff and shoving it in people's faces when they say Talon is a ks champ, all the graphs I've checked the past few games have been something like this.
I tower-dived Oriana at lvl 5 and got away with my life thanks to Flash. I recalled and got a brutalizer then one-shot her when she got back onto the lane. Then again, and again, and again. Eventually she switched lanes with Pantheon, who had been dominating our Warwick top, but I was able to keep winning the game by ganking bot, who were having trouble, and Warwick caught up by beating the level 6 Oriana who had come onto his lane while he was level 9.
Panth killed me twice by counter-ganking, but I'd double killed their bot lane both times and Pantheon died to
Nunu & Willump and Miss Fortune straight after.In the end they surrendered.
Did pretty badly this game, really. I was vs AP Yi, and I was doing pretty well at the start. He was down to 40% HP while I was level 3 and about to hit level 4. So I decided I'd go all in on him with W Q and auto-attacks + Ignite, then E to him when he either flashed or healed, to silence him. So I hit level 4 and charged at Yi, at the EXACT same moment Skarner came out of the brush to gank. He hadn't waited for me to over-extend or anything, he'd just decided to come out of the brush for the gank at the exact moment I moved forwards. I couldn't escape the gank so I tried to kill Yi, but rather than waiting for his heal I had to use my E a second before dying hoping he would try to heal right then. Unfortunately he didn't, and he healed after I died, surviving my ignite with about 40 HP.
After that he had x2 Doran's Rings, farmed exclusively with his Q and didn't come near me a single time, just poked me from afar, so I couldn't do anything. I managed to gank a few lanes though, but so did he. In the end we got an extremely lucky Corkie quadrakill that made him the feddest person in the game, even though he'd been losing bot. And so we won.
I got firstblooded at about 1 minute in. I thought Shaco was starting at blue so I defended the mid brush on the blue side. I realized he was going to the red so went to the other side. I didn't completely face-check, I shoved Rake into the brush and ran backwards, but Rake didn't hit anything and no one jumped out at me. So I went back into the brush and there, right where I had thrown my Rake, was Cho'gath... He used his Q and Eve + Irelia ran out of the other brush. I flashed out but they all flashed after me, and while I was out of auto-attack range of all of them, Evelynn's Q could still reach me, and I died to her ignite and Q.
But bot lane was winning, as well as top, and I got a few kills ganking, so we won.
Vapora Dark wrote:
Stronk on a bruiser Talon. ( Which in itself, is bad )
Not enough damage for assassin Talon, it's even weaker than
Trinity Force in terms of damage. And Talon's passive only amplifies damage on auto-attacks, not spells, so the immediate slow it gives would only amplify damage on the first aplication of Noxian Diplomacy.i thought the proc was more damage then triforce?
idk i just liked the 20% cdr and armor for a top lane talon.
what was your morde build btw?
and in the game you went 5/10 you were kat?
hard to tell lol.
I don't understand the mindset of junglers in this Elo.
TALON COUNTERED OUR MID? CAMP HIM.
TALON GOT COUNTERED BY LEE? CAMP HIM.
I got ganked at lvl 1 by Maokai and died. When I got back onto the lane, I hit level 2 and in a matter of seconds Maokai ganked again, straight from his red. I didn't die, but I had to recall lest Lee manage to land a Q on me, which would have 1-shot me. Then Maokai ganked again 9 minutes in, which killed me because I'd blown my flash in his last gank. I got back onto the lane AND HE GANKED ME AGAIN TWO MINUTES LATER. I saw him through one of my wards though so I just walked away and only took damage from his sapling. Soon after that, Kha'zix finally ganked mid and we got a kill on Lee. He said "talon, i camp mid now". That was his only gank the entire game. Seriously, why am I always the one stuck with the camping junglers, who apparently camp for the hell of it, while my team's junglers almost never gank, and even when they're "camping", their camping consists of 1 gank? Cait finally broke the 100 cs mark 30 minutes in, Kha'zix was failing and killstole one of my kills with his W when I ganked bot to try and get back in the game, but he was pretty useless with it.
Garen was the only one who was doing fine, but he couldn't carry us. Even when I was so behind I could 1 shot Miss Fortune, but I hadn't been able to roam and get my team an early-game advantage, so Miss Fortune was pretty much the only enemy to die in teamfights.
Also, I just had to leave the next game because of this.
AND SO SHE PICKS KATARINA INTO VLAD, WHO COUNTERS HER. I really wish I hadn't left that and just lost the game to get that Kat to go down in Elo, because she was absolutely ******ed.
TALON COUNTERED OUR MID? CAMP HIM.
TALON GOT COUNTERED BY LEE? CAMP HIM.
I got ganked at lvl 1 by Maokai and died. When I got back onto the lane, I hit level 2 and in a matter of seconds Maokai ganked again, straight from his red. I didn't die, but I had to recall lest Lee manage to land a Q on me, which would have 1-shot me. Then Maokai ganked again 9 minutes in, which killed me because I'd blown my flash in his last gank. I got back onto the lane AND HE GANKED ME AGAIN TWO MINUTES LATER. I saw him through one of my wards though so I just walked away and only took damage from his sapling. Soon after that, Kha'zix finally ganked mid and we got a kill on Lee. He said "talon, i camp mid now". That was his only gank the entire game. Seriously, why am I always the one stuck with the camping junglers, who apparently camp for the hell of it, while my team's junglers almost never gank, and even when they're "camping", their camping consists of 1 gank? Cait finally broke the 100 cs mark 30 minutes in, Kha'zix was failing and killstole one of my kills with his W when I ganked bot to try and get back in the game, but he was pretty useless with it.
Garen was the only one who was doing fine, but he couldn't carry us. Even when I was so behind I could 1 shot Miss Fortune, but I hadn't been able to roam and get my team an early-game advantage, so Miss Fortune was pretty much the only enemy to die in teamfights.
Also, I just had to leave the next game because of this.
AND SO SHE PICKS KATARINA INTO VLAD, WHO COUNTERS HER. I really wish I hadn't left that and just lost the game to get that Kat to go down in Elo, because she was absolutely ******ed.
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Shame I couldn't see the stats screen, I was really happy about winning this.
They picked Garen to counter our Irelia, I picked Talon to counter their Kata. Went into the game and it was Garen mid, Kata top. I just harassed Garen a lot with my W up until level 4, when I got ganked by Maokai. He ganked me from the wrong side though and by the time he reached me to get in range for a snare, he was in tower range and got hit by it once. He moved out of its range just as Garen attacked me too, and the tower hit Garen once too. As they were both walking away I E Q W Ignited Garen as he was about 40% HP from the tower hit, and scored first blood. Best gank EU. Irelia was beating Kat top, but not crushing her as hard as I would have been. At around level 8 she finally managed to get a kill on her though. Meanwhile I scored 2 more kills on Garen because I'm a boss and never lose a lane as Talon, not even to bruisers. But even so, it took me ****ing AGES to get those 2 kills, so I wasn't as ahead as i would have liked to be.
So at some point, I decided to try and get further ahead by ganking bot. I went into the tri-brush and waited there to see how the enemy bot reacted, to check if they had it warded. Taric came close to it and just stared at the brush, and we had a staring contest where neither of us did anything. Then I realized Ez and every minion on the lane had stopped moving too, so I tried clicking somewhere and Talon wouldn't move.
... I was Dc'd!
I spam clicked towards the blue buff brush to try and get away with my life in case the brush was warded. I didn't see what happened so I don't know how it happened, but when my DC ended I was at my blue buff with about 10 HP. I'll never know how that was to be...
I recalled and went back mid, and decided to try and lower their morale by saying "Nice lane switch by the way. Sure turned out in your favour". Garen responded by saying "You had advantage earlier, but now I have items and can beat you". I said "Sure you can". I went mid, dc'd, and reconnected to "YOU HAVE BEEN SLAIN" and Garen's big fat ugly face inside a red circle. Then my ping jumped up to ridiculous levels, like 20,000 ping or so, and I remained DC'd for a while. Eventually I was able to calm my internet down and reconnect, but Garen had already completely made up for the large advantage I'd built over him early-game.
Shaco was pretty much useless in team-fights, and Katarina, while she had been losing to Irelia, had at least been able to farm, something she wouldn't have done if she'd been laning against me, so she was rather tanky. 2 Doran's Shields, Ninja Tabi, and a Liandry's Torment. No way I could burst that down. I told my team that and that they needed to focus Kat whenever she jumped in, and teamfights started going slightly better, but mostly ending even. Every time she jumped in with her ult I silenced her, burst her, and wrecked the rest of their team after coming out of stealth because my team would have finished her off for me.
In the end we managed to catch out Kat and someone else bot lane and killed 2 more, and we won thanks to Irelia tanking every tower from the mid bot tower to their nexus towers as Taric was the only one alive. Who needs minions?