wRAth's Mid Counter List

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=DuffTime] Jayce may be even better mid than top. I think he is. [/quote] Thanks for the opinion, I wanna give him another go at mid. My problem at top is that he does feel more like a caster than a bruiser or carry.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][[Jayce]] is much more popular mid than top at higher elo right now. He gets access to blue buff and can push and poke really really hard with it. He can also wreck the more fragile mid laners in hammer form if given the opportunity. I watched CLG's L1nk play [[Orianna]] against [[Kayle]] earlier and it was exceptional. Her peel, AoE damage and CC seem well suited to countering the kind of plays Kayle wants to make in team fights with her assassins and initiators. Not sure if she's a hard counter or not, but it might be worth considering. It's also worth mentioning that the rest of CLG also had great peel (Cho, Alistar, Jarvan) which of course contributed to shutting down dives.[/quote]

[quote=Rhollback]It's hard to pick other champs that aren't described as capable junglers because they are.. Well.. capable junglers. I personally go Jungle [[Vi]]. She has a shield passive when she uses a spell (([[Blast Shield]])), a passive that breaks armor and increases attack speed, which does swell for jungling, as well as a sweeper (( [[Excessive Force]] )). [[Vault Breaker]] makes great for surprise ganks and [[Assault and Battery]] is an awesome initiate or chase spell.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]^wut Also Jayce es stronger mid ya[/quote]

[quote=Fruyti]He's saying that a counters list may not be useful since you have to take junglers and other lanes into account.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]"It's hard to pick other champs that aren't described as capable junglers because they are" And then he talks about Vi's kit no he isn't...yet another moment of fruyti derp I think he just posted in the wrong thread[/quote]

[quote=Fruyti]wtf my crazy moments again[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Is it just me or does lee not counter akali? I feel like it's a skill matchup. If lee hits his Q's early game he wins, if he doesn't akali wins. Also akali counters jayce, not the other way <.<[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Lee doesn't directly counter Akali in lane, he's actually pretty squishy early on and explodes easily. He's more of a general counter because you're never safe in your shroud when he's nearby.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Exactly, lee jungle counters akali but in a 1v1 mid matchup i'd say akali's in favor >.> Diana and morde counters akali yet no mention of them.[/quote]