Why Fizz takes no skill

[quote=tehAsian][quote=Xander756] I doubt someone who is bad would be able to go 133/19/83 over the course of 10 games while facing Platinum and Gold league ranked players as opponents. [/quote] Instead of hiding behind KDA like a retarded bronze rated scrub, give us a real reason to believe that you're actually good at the game. You can easily post shit such as CS, replays which show decision making, and gameplay which are REAL determining factors for your skill level. Oh, you beat platinum and gold rated players? Do you know how much most of them SUCK? Most of them got BOOSTED there for fucks sake. And if they're playing with YOU? They're probably terrible or have a horrible win/lose ratio. And that's DOMINION. SR mechanics don't mean ANYTHING there. If anything, beating a full TEAM of DIAMOND ELO PLAYERS who actually PLAY DOMINION would mean 'something' at the very least. Not to mention skill level is fucking RELATIVE TO WHO YOU PLAY AGAINST. You have something I call [[master yi]] syndrome. You play a champion that capitalizes on MISTAKES the enemy team makes, ie DARIUS. Mistakes happen in ALL elo ranges, but SO MUCH HAPPEN IN LOW ELO where YOU ARE that you can play a champion who FOCUSES on mistakes, get a high KDA (WHICH DOESN'T FUCKING MEAN SHIT) and think "I'M SO GOOD AT THIS GAME, LOOK AT MY SCORE!!!11!" when you haven't even grasped the concept that this game doesn't revolve around KILLS, they revolve around OBJECTIVES like DRAGON and TOWERS. [quote] I have yet to see a single rebuttal to any point made in the article whatsoever.[/quote] *cracks knuckles* [b]What other champion in this game can kill you in 0.00 seconds?! (see image above).[/b] Iunno, maybe [[leblanc]], [[veigar]], [[poppy]], and a LOT OF OTHERS that you've obviously missed out on because you don't want to be wrong. [b]The biggest problem with Fizz is that he becomes too powerful, too quickly. If he is able to kill you even once, his strength "snowballs" so that he becomes nearly unkillable. This especially becomes a problem in dominion where players earn experience and (increased) gold over time allowing Fizz to snowball in power without even having to do anything![/b] Assassin champions WORKING AS INTENDED LOL. ALL ASSASSINS CAN DO THAT. Give me even ONE who can't. [[zed]] can have over 600 AD LATE GAME, UNTARGETABILITY, SLIPPERINESS, [u]POKE[/u] WHICH EVEN FIZZ DOESN'T HAVE, and can INSTANTLY KILL AN AD CARRY! Oh yeah, he actually has tons of AOE TOO. [[leblanc]]? QR's your carry, boom dead. [[veigar]]? He presses R. And still has more AoE than Fizz afterwards. This is why your claim here is wrong, you assume only FIZZ can snowball and that he's the ONLY ONE who can increase in power without doing anything in dominion when every other assassin can do literally the same thing but BETTER. [b]What makes Fizz most annoying is his E - "Playful" and "Trickster." When Fizz uses this ability, he hops up on his trident and becomes untargetable for 0.75 seconds. When he comes down, he has a choice to slam the ground where he is (dealing a ton of AP magic damage and an area of effect slow) or jumping away in order to escape or chase someone (still dealing massive damage but losing the slow). This ability is way too powerful. Why should Fizz have an ability that makes him untargetable and invincible? Riot must have thought that a 0.75 second window of being untargetable wouldn't make that much of a different but it really does. For example, in a game I played recently, an enemy Fizz with less than 100 health was being chased by a teammate who was playing Teemo. Teemo had full health, which at this point in the game was around 1,600. The enemy Fizz turned around and before Teemo could even fire off one dart, Fizz jumped up on his Trident, preventing Teemo from targeting or damaging him in any way. He came down and then immediately cast his dash, Urchin Strike. The combined damage between the two abilities killed the full HP Teemo before he could do anything. This should not have happened.[/b] I don't know, maybe OTHER CHAMPIONS HAVE ABILITIES THAT MAKE HIM UNTARGETABLE AND INVINCIBLE TOO!!! Like maybe [[vladimir]]? [[zed]]? [[shaco]]? [[leblanc]]? [[karthus]] (in a sense)? [[guardian angel]]? [[zhonya's hourglass]]? Also, you're complaining about .75????? Vlad is a who FUCKING 2 SECONDS! Hourglass extends that to FOUR! AND HIS POOL IS ON A 6 SECOND COOLDOWN meaning 33% UPTIME. Additionally, it doesn't matter if Fizz is at 100 health or 10000, HE'S A BURST ASSASSIN. He is ALWAYS capable of dealing damage WITHOUT LOSING HEALTH. AGAIN, YOU'RE IGNORING the fact that BURST ASSASSINS are MEANT TO KILL YOU QUICKLY. ANY OTHER ASSASSIN can fight a (bad) [[teemo]] and kill him in under 1 second because that's WHAT THEY WERE DESIGNED TO DO. [b]Becoming untargetable does not take any skill and should not be an ability that Fizz has or needs. It also makes no sense in-game. Why would someone not be able to shoot Fizz just because he is currently standing on the top of his trident? Other champions like Tristana can still be hurt and even killed in mid-jump. Why can't Fizz?[/b] Takes no skill? Use it wrong. I dare you. Makes no sense? Why can Teemo blind Lee Sin when he's ALREADY BLIND? Why can CASSIOPEIA turn MALPHITE, a ROCK, into STONE? It's a FUCKING GAME. [b]In my opinion, Fizz's E is even more valuable than Kayle's ultimate. At level six, Kayle's ult makes her invincible for two seconds. Kayle's ult may last longer than Fizz's E, but it also has a 90 second cooldown compared to a 16 second cooldown on level one Playful/Trickster (which could be even lower by level six). Kayle's ult does have more utility because you can also cast it on a nearby ally but although it makes Kayle or an ally invincible, it does not make them untargetable. This is a huge advantage for Fizz's "Playful." [/b] What the fucking hell? The whole reason WHY [[intervention]] can be casted on allies is the REASON IT'S BETTER. 3 WHOLE SECONDS OF FUCKING UP THE ENEMY TEAM. Not to mention that LoL is a TEAM GAME. Oh yeah, while an ally in invincible, they're allowed to do other actions, such as BLOW UP THE OTHER TEAM. Can Fizz do that while untargetable? I DON'T THINK SO. [b]Becoming untargetable throws off enemy combos. Someone using auto attacks (such as Xin Zhao or Graves for example) may inadvertently start attacking a nearby minion because their target is no longer valid. This gives Fizz even more time to get in cheap hits as you have to readjust your targeting. If you try to cast an ability on him, the cast itself will simply not work. Many times players have set combinations that they work through when engaging an enemy champion. For example, playing Ryze you might engage with Q, immediately press W, E, and then Q again. Even if your initial cast of Q is nullified, you are so used to automatically going through these motions that you simply move on to the next ability without thinking. By the time Fizz can actually be targeted again, you might now be engaging him with an E. Your entire combination was disrupted and now you're in really bad shape.[/b] Throws off enemy combos? At what elo? 500? LOL. Learn to fucking play the game right. [b]As you can see, Playful/Trickster is what needs to be fixed. He is already slippery enough with his passive "Nimble Fighter" that allows him to ignore unit collision and decreases auto attack damage against him by up to 14 per hit. Fizz can also hop over walls and escape danger using the "Trickster" function of his E (another reason it is more useful than Kayle's ult). He doesn't also need to become untargetable while casting it. That is absurd.[/b] Vlads pool should also be fixed so that it roots him in place. And what's absurd is your stupidity. [b]As mentioned before, Fizz also has a dash called Urchin Strike. It is a ridiculously powerful combination coupled with Playful[/b] You don't even explain why it's powerful LOL. [b]After dashing into you, Fizz will immediately go into Playful. [/b] Then the Fizz is bad for using it too early. Half competent team = kills him right after he comes out of it. [b]Basically, it is an automatic kill for Fizz against any non-tank champ.[/b] Yeah, because you can't juke Playful / Trickster because you're bad. Because you can't kite a melee champion who just blew all his gap closers to get close to you. Because you don't know what a [[warmog's armor]], [[negatron cloak]], or a [[guardian angel]] is. [b]Riot also just so happened to equip Fizz with Seastone Trident, a passive ability that rends targets of his auto attacks for a percentage of their missing health (up to a whopping eight percent). Because tanks typically have a ton of health to begin with, Fizz will soften you up first and then own you with Seastone Trident. [/b] BIGGER NUMBERS MEAN MORE DAMAGE LOL. You're an idiot. It's off % MISSING HEALTH. IT AFFECTS EVERYONE EQUALLY. If I have 1000 health and I'm missing 500, it'll do 40 damage to me, or 4% of my maximum health. If I have 10000 health and I'm missing 5000, it'll do 400 damage to me, or [u]4% of my maximum health.[/u] I'm pretty sure even idiots can understand simple math. [b]Fizz excels against all types of champions. And I haven't even mentioned his insane ultimate yet. Chum the Waters is an area of effect ult that he throws at you which scales with 100 percent AP, stuns enemies for one second, and slows by up to 70 percent afterwards.[/b] Skillshot = missable. Slow missile speed = dodgeable. Doesn't stun, it KNOCKS UP, which is BETTER than a stun. Doesnt slow for 70% AFTERWARDS, DURING the 'tether' period. l2read. [b]To see just how ludicrous it is, let's compare Chum the Waters with Amumu's ult Curse of the Sad Mummy - a solid ultimate in its own right but nowhere near as useful as Chum the Waters. Amumu's ult has a much larger area of effect cone but it also emanates out from around him (thus meaning he has to be right on the frontlines to maximize its effect), Fizz can throw his at you (from a very safe distance of 1,275 range) which keeps him out of harm's way.[/b] THEY'RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT SHIT YOU DUMBASS. [[curse of the sad mummy]] IS INSTANT and CANNOT BE AVOIDED IF YOU'RE IN CLOSE RANGE. GOOD PLAYERS will SPREAD OUT and NOT GET HIT BY CHUM THE WATERS, meaning ZERO DAMAGE. WHAT'S THAT? YOU WANT FIZZ OUT OF HARM'S WAY? BETTER NOT URCHIN STRIKE/PLAYFUL / TRICKSTER IN LOL. [b]Fizz's ult does more damage because it scales with 100 percent of his AP while Amumu's scales with only 80 percent (Fizz's also does 450 base damage while Amumu's does only 350 base).[/b] AMUMU ISN'T AN AP ASSASSIN LOL. HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE HIGH BASE/RATIOS. [b]Amumu's ult entangles enemies for two seconds but keep in mind an entangle isn't a stun. Enemies can still cast and use abilities, just not move or use auto attacks. Fizz's ult knocks enemies into the air for one second. This prevents them from doing anything so is much more useful than an entangle. On top of that, Fizz's ult also slows enemies by up to 70 percent for 1.5 seconds afterwards. This makes it nearly impossible for someone to retreat after being hit with it. Amumu's has no slow effect at all. Effects combined, Fizz's ult stuns/slows you for 2.5 seconds while Amumu's entangles for just two seconds. Again, Fizz's ult is superior here.[/b] OH YEAH? What about Amumu's ult having over TWICE THE AoE RANGE? At most, Fizz's ult knocks up ONE PERSON because most people are actually DECENT ENOUGH TO SPREAD OUT. Again, this is a TEAM GAME. YOU AREN'T THE ONLY FKING PERSON ON YOUR TEAM. Amumu's ult is WAY better because of how well it actually SYNERGIZES WITH AoE. [b]As if that weren't enough perks, Fizz's ult also has a lower cooldown so he can cast his already more powerful ultimate, more frequently. The cooldown on Chum the Waters is 100 / 85 / 70 compared to Curse of the Sad Mummy at 150 / 130 / 110.[/b] That's because [[curse of the sad mummy]] is WAY STRONGER than [[chum the waters]]. You want lower cooldowns on strong abilities? How about [[requiem]] on a 30 second cooldown? [[destiny]] on a 15 second cooldown? You'd actually WANT SHIT LIKE THAT? [b]It is very easy to land as well because if you actually hit someone with it, it sticks to them. If you miss them, the ult still lands on the ground and has a chance of hitting with no penalty to functionality. Why is it that every other skill shot simply misses if you miss? I'd love if Varus's tendrils had a secondary effect if you missed. Or maybe Ashe's arrow could explode if you miss and damage people anyway? Or why doesn't Brand's Pillar of Flame ability burn the ground for 1.5 seconds and hurt anybody who walks on it? Why is it that only Fizz gets a second chance? He can even utilize this part of his ult to throw it where he thinks people will be or to cover his own retreat.[/b] EASY TO LAND? Against IDIOTS maybe, but [[chum the waters]] moves about as slow as [[javelin toss]], which is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. Play against half decent people and you won't be hitting ANYTHING. Oh yeah, not to mention if you think it landing on the ground is a second chance, you're wrong. If you've even played with people who walked over it, it means that person is bad and probably doesn't know what Fizz IS. [b]In summary, Fizz is a low-risk, high-reward champion. His abilities not only focus on quickly assassinating enemy champions but also on keeping him alive. It should be one or the other. Fizz has a normal ability that is arguably more useful than another champ's ultimate which in of itself is laughable but when combined with the fact his ultimate is also better than the ult's of other champs, it becomes moronic.[/b] Squishy melee = HIGH RISK, HIGH REWARD. Abilities help assassinating but also keeping him alive? That's ALL FUCKING ASSASSINS LOL. IT SHOULDN'T BE ONE OR THE OTHER or Assassins would be USELESS. yeah, Fizz's E and R are better than other champion's ults, IF YOU AREN'T A TEAM PLAYER. LoL = TEAM GAME. tl; dr you have no idea how game balance works, as proven by what you've written, what I've written, and what we've written in your post about Thresh. Shut the fuck up, get out, and stop writing articles on things you clearly know nothing about. tl; dr 2 You're an idiot who thinks KDA means everything, and if you truly think so then go back to Call of Duty.[/quote]

[quote=Xander756]No champion can kill you in 0.00 seconds with 3 abilities. It's impossible to simultaneously cast 3 abilities. That Fizz was hacking.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Xander756] No champion can kill you in 0.00 seconds with 3 abilities. It's impossible to simultaneously cast 3 abilities. That Fizz was hacking. [/quote] Or...maybe the death recap is just buggy? Use your brain. I've been playing for two years, there are no hackers in League of Legends. [i]Please[/i] stop feeding the troll people. He doesn't deserve page long posts and he'll just dismiss everything you say anyway.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD]Death recap aint worth a dime. Just sayin.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]oh god now hes making another claim about hacking, and viegar can kill you instantly with one spell just pointing that out, also its called BURST DAMAGE meaning it happens all at once[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael][quote=Xander756] I have yet to see a single rebuttal to any point made in the article whatsoever. [/quote] Pretty sure this confirms that he's trolling[/quote]