Shorty...

1. Item actives never proced spellblade

2. Hydra never had a 3s CD on its active

3. BT is more auto-attack reliant. Hydra splashes, dealing more overall damage, decreasing the need to auto-attack other nearby targets. Hydra also has an active, which is essentially a 5th ability with a 1.0 bonus AD ratio and your base AD as its base damage.

4. Hydra has a WAY better build path than BT. BT has a BF Sword as its component, meaning you have to sit on 1500g before your power actually increases, which isn't ideal especially when you're losing lane/don't have a lot of farm. Hydra has multiple cheap items which build into it, and every little component is beneficial to you during the early game. Also, you won't have to sit on a large amount of money before suddenly getting a spike in power.

5. You're using personal experience and a static build. Builds should never be static, ever. ALWAYS adjust to the current situations. Unless you're Ninjaken playing jungle Nocturne, but he's #3 in Challenger Tier.

Item actives proc the spellblade or whatever it's called on Trinity Force. When hydra active had 3s CD it was pretty sick.

I don't think BT is more auto attack reliant, also 25 AD is about 60 more damage on E>Q. I don't like the way hydra builds anyway, just doesn't go well with my item order and i usually end the game with 4-5 items.

Okay I may have gone a bit far saying they should be deleted, but it shouldn't be at the top just because it's the longest thing on mobafire. He's a bit hypocritical as well, especially concerning that ravenous hydra.

EDIT: And having no ranked games is a pretty big impact. You don't get better by going against the same level people. Not saying that normals is just bad kids, but not the best either.

No, BlackIceT's guides are decent, and having no ranked games played doesn't mean it shouldn't be up there. There can be better guides, but saying that it doesn't belong up there is stretching it.

This is such a great comment lol. My god how did blackicet person make 3 top guides when they've never played a ranked game before? It's just kinda sad that those guides will forever be at the top. Maybe we can ask mobafire to remove them. It'd do the community a world of good.

Yes well........I had a major derp. Sue me :D

I actually highly doubt that Trinity Force gives you more burst than an equivalent-cost item. Go test it in a custom game (Do your burst combo on blue buff with TF, record how much damage you did; let the HP reset, then do your burst combo on blue buff with a Bloodthirster).

If you notice, I put three starting builds, and one of them is that very start you describe. This is my personal favorite start. I rush Brutalizer into TF with Wukong since it greatly helps with his burst. I find myself delaying the completion of Black Cleaver, opting for survival or other damage items instead.

Hence why I said it is not core. *facepalm*

No man you're missing the whole point, it's the active that makes hydra worth buying. If it didn't have that active I would not touch it with a 3-foot pole.

Hydra only works with your auto attacks and Crushing Blow. It does not work with any other of his abilities including Cyclone. The AoE effect is also not as good as you make it sound considering it only works with his autos and his Q. It is a great pushing item especially if the split-push is the plan however as a regular item there are better options for Wu than Hydra. I guess we will just have to disagree on this. (Based off of my opinions of course not Shorty's)

Concerning Maw it is true that you would not need it EVERY game but let's consider this team: Volibear, Elise, Lux, Miss Fortune, Sona. All are pretty common picks now-a-days for the most part (maybe Elise not as much). Every single one of them have magic damage. The shield would definitely not be useless especially if you get caught in Bullet Time. Even if you replace Elise with Zed or Kha'Zix it would still be 4 out of 5 enemies that send out magic damage. What other item would protect you against magic damage AND give you AD? Only Mercurial Scimitar and that item is even more expensive and situational than Maw will ever be.

Um, don't buy Maw because the stats suck and you're wasting a lot of money on a bubble that isn't always necessary?

Hydra isn't "okay", it's fantastic, period. E > Q > Ult > Hydra is a TON of burst damage in team fights. Always buy it? No, probably not. Is it good? Yes. Are the reasons Shorty provided good enough to say that it's not good? Not even close.



You don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you?

"Wu scales good on AD"
Hydra gives 25 less AD in return for hundreds of additional AoE damage. I'd say worth it.

"Wu isn't an epic auto auto attack champ"
So let's buy the item without an active that gives damage. Let's also buy the item that needs more auto attacks to use effectively.

"Ravenous Hydra was OP until it had 3s CD on active to proc spellsword effect of Trinity Force."
What the ****?