Upcoming League Of Legends Patch 3.10

[quote=Janitsu]I think it's too expensive item for supports now... So supports need to figure out something else.[/quote]

[quote=Encross][quote=Vynertje] I'm wondering the following: In the 3.9 patch, the standard buy for supports and junglers would be: Jungler: Aegis/Bulwark Support: Locket So, what will happen now when these items will become one? Who will get the Aegis now, and what item will the other one get? [/quote] I think Junglers are still more likely to pick up the new Locket than a Support. You probably [i]do[/i] want one on every team in an ideal scenario, but the stats on the item and the Jungler's ability to make plays across every lane with the shield active make it a little more useful in their hands.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Exactly. That is what I have been thinking as well. The question is, what will supports get? All the other support items are kinda meh.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Encross] [quote=Pheyniex] actually saddened about the Locket+Bulwark changes but it was getting kinda dull for junglers, imo. remaining item changes are interesting. namely making warden's mail and frozen heart cheaper (lol).[/quote] The only champion buying [[frozen heart]] in his core ([[ryze]]) received significant nerfs. It's an indirect buff to him that ultimately won't change the flow of a normal game. [/quote] so, you only get items because they are "core" on X... [quote=Janutsu]I think it's too expensive item for supports now... So supports need to figure out something else.[/quote] since income nerf, supports can barely buy anything, especially with no HoG, and not buying philo stone. I rarely saw one with this Locket. In bronze/silver, most junglers didn't even get aegis. so, well, don't count on it, unless you are uber high elo, imo.[/quote]

[quote=Encross][quote=vynertje] Exactly. That is what I have been thinking as well. The question is, what will supports get? All the other support items are kinda meh.[/quote] I think it ultimately depends on the game state. You aren't exactly swimming in gold as a support, so once [[ruby sightstone]], upgraded boots, [[oracle's elixir]], various wards, and [[philosopher's stone]]-esque items are completed you're a little hard pressed to even begin thinking about a real purchase. I'd actually like to see the meta shift in a way that allows supports to start looking at actual, impactful items in their late game buys rather than standard aura stacking. You're already seeing [[zyra]] supports err towards the side of [[sorcerer's shoes]] and [[liandry's torment]]. Maybe this is a step in the right direction towards making support less of a punished role and more of an actual threat.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I don't know how about you, but this is pretty much the standard in gold and above. I wouldn't call gold (nor platinum) uber high elo ;-)[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]every jungler in silver gets [[aegis of the legion]]..... In my games at least. Also, I haven't got [[frozen heart]] ever in season 3. [[randuin's omen]] and [[sunfire cape]] are both better imo.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]The only item I can imagine that can make supports impactful without high cost is [[morellonomicon]]. The other items are just too expensive. I haven't seen a [[zyra]] finish a [[liandry's torment]] before the 40 minute mark, and if you only get that item your damage will still be only really marginal. On the other hand, what happens to the tank supports like [[thresh]], [[leona]] etc. They can't get those items.[/quote]

[quote=Encross][quote=Pheyniex] so, you only get items because they are "core" on X... [/quote] That is the only relevant scenario where a [b]100g[/b] reduction would actually be impactful. Other than that you're just nitpicking highly specific game states to back your argument up. I don't get why you're putting the word core in quotes, it isn't exactly a new term and you're just coming off as pretentious.[/quote]

[quote=Encross][quote=Vynertje] The only item I can imagine that can make supports impactful without high cost is [[morellonomicon]]. The other items are just too expensive. I haven't seen a [[zyra]] finish a [[liandry's torment]] before the 40 minute mark, and if you only get that item your damage will still be only really marginal. On the other hand, what happens to the tank supports like [[thresh]], [[leona]] etc. They can't get those items. [/quote] [[liandry's torment]] is actually pretty efficient late game, so it being an end-game pick up isn't the worst thing in the world. I think that's another angle of their approach to the [[randuin's omen]] and [[frozen heart]] price reductions. You can still be an aura bear and just buy one of those two items if you're dead set on getting tanky. Any of the [[giant's belt]] items should work.[/quote]