Shen in ARAM

[quote=Troy Sin]well ofc. u play tank as shen but teamfights are always 5v5 in aram and taunt is his only aoe skill. i would usually play solo top in SR which is not the same playing style as ARAM i reckon. and yes perhaps u should go full tank if ur the only tanky champ but mostly u want be.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]It's pretty similar in both maps. The major difference is that champs who succeed in skirmish, duelling and also a bit of aoe dealing or poke have clearly an upper hand. Shen isn't the best but also not the worst champ for ARAM. He's simply not that useful early on. If he initiats he lacks def in order not to be simply foc'd by 5 enemies. Your ulti loses some of it's potential, since you don't need to travel long distances and if you do it in a fight to simply shield one of your mates you'll disable yourself while you could have headed directly into action. Get yourself a strong tank build with Abyssal or do a fun build with Liandry's + Rylai's, Sweeper + Nashor's etc.[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]ive been playing vs another shen recently and he was completly useless compared to me. i did 2 taunts every time he did 1 and was being able to pick up most of enemys poke with my shield. I really cant see why E runes should be bad..[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Because you see ONE guy who PLAYS worse than you, which doesnt have ANYTHING to do with runes,mastery or build... For example if he didn't hit more than one guy with his taunt while you hit three, your taunt was free of charge, just saying. Well you hopefully get the gist of it.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]I go MS quints with Armor yeallows and reds, and mres blues. I usually start either [[Giant's Belt]]+2x[[Rejuvenation Bead]]s or [[Doran's Shield]]+[[Ruby Crystal]]+[[Null-magic Mantle]]/[[Boots of Speed]].[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]lol, this was just an example.. and ofc u get some free taunts but when u fx. u are protecting adc from 1 champ u want get much energy back. therefore no matter how u put it an energy shen with cdr will be able to do 2 taunts when normal shen will do 1.....[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]You don't really look like you're looking for an opinion anymore unless it agrees with your own. We've given you our own examples and you're just brushing them off.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh]Build like Quas and go bananas... [[trinity force]], [[berserker's greaves]], [[zephyr]], [[spirit visage]] and he was still going for more damage. Or, you know, don't use energy runes. Ever.[/quote]

[quote=Troy Sin]Well u guys keep brushing off energy runes and i really dont see why. playing shen as a caster champ seems much better than playing him full tank. Do u really find runes so important in aram that u cant use anything else than defensive of offensive runes on a shen? ofc u have to play him a bit different than if u are full tank. fx: do engage, run back and def carry then engage again. do 3 taunts in 15 sec and then use ulti or chase with E. Because having 240 energy makes it possible to use taunt without hitting and still u can use it again after 5 sec. but the best of all about energy runes is that no one i counting on u being able to throw so many taunts. ever heard of the element of suprise? its like the most important rule in the art of war...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]We're "brushing off" energy runes because they are terrible in pretty much every regard. If you miss your Taunt as Shen, you have a [b]natural 10 energy a second[/b] regen. Sure you won't be able to use it as soon as it's off cooldown more than twice in a row, but if you're doing that anyway, even with a bonus 40 energy, you're going to run out of energy unless you're hitting at least 4 people with it all the time. So basically, there is no reason to get energy runes on anyone. Not in ARAM, not in Dominion, not in Summoners rift or even Twisted Treeline. They're just not good at all. Also, against your "energy runes" Shen, I'd be more surprised at how fast you died rather than the amount of taunts you output. It's not like people can't see your energy bar all the time. Some will just take advantage of your much lower combat stats. EDIT: Since one of your rune sets is late game, and the quint set is well... energy based, you lose a lot of the better resist or damage slots for not a whole lot of payoff. EDIT2: IF you wanna play him as a caster... buy damage? I mean, casters aren't measured by their resource, or lack there of in Riven's case, but by [b]their sheer damage output[/b]. Now, as someone who plays AP Maokai occasionally, a tank in a caster role, it can work. But when someone has only 2 damaging AP ratios that aren't very high, and a shield that helps them get their [b]health based damage[/b] quicker, I'm really inclined to build them as a tank.[/quote]