Nocturne i get AS reds because his passive scales with AS, and i tend to build the same exact thing as i do with vi, with the same exact masteries going 21/9/0, build being ninja tabi spirit of the golem SV randuins maybe brut and a fourth item
and like the others have said going a dorans blade or two early is good if youre ganking a lot
and like the others have said going a dorans blade or two early is good if youre ganking a lot

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Doran's blade is godlike on most AD junglers early, if you scaling has any significancy at all.
I build it on pretty much every jungler i ever play. Hell i used to start doran's blade on elise before her spider form was nerfed, doran's blade in it's current state is just sooooooooo strong in every goda damn situation because of your gold starvation you'll be holding onto that **** for at least 20 minutes.
I build it on pretty much every jungler i ever play. Hell i used to start doran's blade on elise before her spider form was nerfed, doran's blade in it's current state is just sooooooooo strong in every goda damn situation because of your gold starvation you'll be holding onto that **** for at least 20 minutes.
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Oh wow, I'm glad you guys have been continuing this thread. I was out of town for work the past 4-5 days. I'll go ahead and start answering some of these questions.
Nocturne you want to run 21-9-0 w/ AS reds, Armor Yellows, Mr Blues, AD Quints. Elder lizard is weak on him because its cost inefficient. He doesn't have a spammable ability so go for Ancient Golem. I like a 1-2 Dorans blades on him as well. If you want a damage item, Brutalizer, Triforce, and Blade of the Ruined King are all better then Elder Lizard on Nocturne. Randuins is core on him because he has such an easy time getting into the middle of the enemy team and its just a much better item then Sunfire Cape for junglers.
You start Dorans Blade on Aatrox then grab a second one on your first B.
I like buying but not starting 1 Dorans blade on J4 and Vi.
I like buying but not starting 2 Dorans blades on Lee Sin, Xin Zhao, and Nocturne.
Someone mentioned Master Yi and Rengar as junglers, IMO they are unplayable right now. Yi is worse than Rengar but they are both pretty bad. I'm excited to see how Rengar plays in the jungle after his rework.
Dorans blade is an extremely cost efficient item and they cut down on the need for potions on the jungle.
-Lasty
Nocturne you want to run 21-9-0 w/ AS reds, Armor Yellows, Mr Blues, AD Quints. Elder lizard is weak on him because its cost inefficient. He doesn't have a spammable ability so go for Ancient Golem. I like a 1-2 Dorans blades on him as well. If you want a damage item, Brutalizer, Triforce, and Blade of the Ruined King are all better then Elder Lizard on Nocturne. Randuins is core on him because he has such an easy time getting into the middle of the enemy team and its just a much better item then Sunfire Cape for junglers.
You start Dorans Blade on Aatrox then grab a second one on your first B.
I like buying but not starting 1 Dorans blade on J4 and Vi.
I like buying but not starting 2 Dorans blades on Lee Sin, Xin Zhao, and Nocturne.
Someone mentioned Master Yi and Rengar as junglers, IMO they are unplayable right now. Yi is worse than Rengar but they are both pretty bad. I'm excited to see how Rengar plays in the jungle after his rework.
Dorans blade is an extremely cost efficient item and they cut down on the need for potions on the jungle.
-Lasty
Allright, this is something I've been wondering for quite some time:
How do people at Diamond 1 deal with the standard level 3 ganks and how do you think this will develop into season 4?
At the moment every jungler and top laner knows that the enemy jungler will be top at level 3 (at least at my games). So sometimes some junglers decide to countergank, and sometimes they decide to just forget about top and farm to get level 4 instead.
How do people at Diamond 1 deal with the standard level 3 ganks and how do you think this will develop into season 4?
At the moment every jungler and top laner knows that the enemy jungler will be top at level 3 (at least at my games). So sometimes some junglers decide to countergank, and sometimes they decide to just forget about top and farm to get level 4 instead.
I got one, how the **** do you counterplay a vi?
She's just this big, tanky, damage-y, CC-y, untargetable ***** who just does everything so well, i can barely even duel the ***** early like wtf.
She's just this big, tanky, damage-y, CC-y, untargetable ***** who just does everything so well, i can barely even duel the ***** early like wtf.
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Vyn I probably won't cover this on the show so I'll answer it here. You should play tier 1 - 2 junglers so if you get into that 2v2 situation especially vs weaker junglers you'll win. Another thing you can do is gank mid at level 3.
Season 4 changes haven't really been announced for jungle yet, so I'm not sure whats going to happen. I have some ideas that i'll bring up in the show.
Season 4 changes haven't really been announced for jungle yet, so I'm not sure whats going to happen. I have some ideas that i'll bring up in the show.
C4 Lasty wrote:
Season 4 changes haven't really been announced for jungle yet, so I'm not sure whats going to happen. I have some ideas that i'll bring up in the show.
There has been a ton of info on reddit lately actually. 4th jungle camp, madreds bloodrazor makes a return.
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