Veteran player getting back into LoL S3, what...

[quote=Pheyniex]inb4 [[Runaan's Hurricane]] on [[Malphite]].[/quote]

[quote=sirell]Not that it would work on [[malphite]] anyway. Dat sarcasm tho.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=DillButt64] then answer this Searz if Shiv is sooooooo much worse than Hurricane why are all the pros building Shiv and PD over Hurricane? why hasnt Hurricane seen any pro play if its such a great item?[/quote] That's the thing: [b]it isn't.[/b] It's normally not that great, but on Caitlyn specifically it works very well because of her passive and long range. [quote=Vynertje] Overall the stats given by Shiv are a lot better than Runaan's. The passive might be 'worse' (it can crit though) but the strength of an item is not only defined by the passive.[/quote] Yes, but the strength of some items are in fact defined mostly by their passives. I mean [[Thornmail]] would suck so incredibly hard without that passive, and so would [[Runaan's Hurricane]]. [quote]Problem is, for any ADC, there is a 6-item core which cannot be changed.[/quote] It's only a problem [i]because you make it one[/i]. You're of a far too rigid mindset. These items [i]can[/i] be changed. The whole point of most of the items is damage in the end, so if another item has the potential to increase this damage with or without crit, then one [i]should[/i] look into it As I've stated already, I think that a build that stacks AD has some real potential with the Hurricane. [b]I'm not saying I know it's better, I'm just saying that it has the potential to be.[/b] [quote=tehAsian] 9% increased damage? Why buy that over IE, which gives 50% additional crit damage + AD that scales off crit + AD that scales off AS + AD that scales with your abilities?[/quote] Yes, from the synergy with her passive [b]alone[/b]. You're taking one part of an item and comparing it to all the beneficial parts of another item. It's like saying that [[Runaan's Hurricane]] is better than [[Infinity Edge]] because [[Infinity Edge]] only gives +50% critical damage while [[Runaan's Hurricane]] gives 70%AS and two extra shots. The Hurricane is just better, so why buy [[Infinity Edge]] over the Hurricane? [b]See? I can make bullshit comparisons too. It's easy.[/b] [quote=sirell] Searz, you really REALLY need the mobility that [[statikk shiv]]/[[phantom dancer]] gets you.[/quote] Valid point. I'm inclined to agree that you need the MS to some extent. There are other MS items though. And who says that these items are mutually exclusive? I've been saying that they're not for a while now.. [quote]I know you don't like crit stats, but it's actually quite important.[/quote] Nonono, I dislike crit as a MECHANIC, that has nothing to do with what items I build. Crit is an incredibly useful tool for increasing your damage in LoL, which is why I'd build it on pretty much every AD carry in the game. Don't make assumptions.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Caitlyn's passive is 150% normal damage, a crit with IE is 250%. Which would you rather have every 2 attacks?[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Luther3000] Caitlyn's passive is 150% normal damage, a crit with IE is 250%. Which would you rather have every 2 attacks? [/quote] this[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Luther3000] Why are you even asking for help if you're just going to ignore and talk down to people who have been playing all season, many of whom are frankly better players? I mean jesus dude your attitude is horrible and it makes me mad as hell.[/quote] [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oScCgxuId98]Shh, no tears. Only dreams now.[/url] [quote]Runaan's kills your single target DPS. It makes you powerless in a duel and means you will do nothing to any tanks coming after you in a teamfight.[/quote] No it doesn't. Why would it do that? It doesn't reduce your DPS at all. Compared to other items it does have less single target DPS than most. <-THAT is a valid point. You're exaggerating your points to the extremes, making your points very silly and ultimately invalid. Stop that. [quote]People rarely clump up enough for it to be effective and even when they do it doesn't really exceed crit and the crazy synergy it has with [[infinity edge]].[/quote] Oh yeah? Says you and what math? [b]Stop making empty statements[/b]. [quote]Burning down one target quickly is always better than dealing mediocore damage to several when you're a squishy ass ADC.[/quote] I think that can be said about any role... You're yet again exaggerating your point to the point of becoming moot. [quote=SEALynx] Don't even know how you became a vet with your terrible attitude. RIP in peace vet Searz(2010-2012), I didn't know you at all.[/quote] Lol, what? XD Please keep commenting, you're hilarious.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I saw the part where you called me stupid before editing it out. I'm done trying to help here, have fun being trash buddy.[/quote]

[quote=Kaggboer2012]just stop guys.[/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]^this[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]Reading this thread made me remember the 'Mybloodisblack'-threads. It is literally the same, OP asks for help people offer help. the help people offered does not fit the theory craft of OP OP thinks his theorycraft is really, really, really, super, dupa, pro, 1337. OP bashes all the help that does not fit with his theorycraft OP continues to try and counter 'empty statements, asking for math' -why doesn't op do some math himself and see that Hurricane is horrible and only for 25% srs games?[/quote]