Atma's Impaler Renekton

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Andrax1] Crit is only useless if you're being useless while you wait for your cooldowns. If you do not like IE you can always get The Bloodthirster. Once again even if Atma's did not have that crit it would still be stupidly cost efficient. [/quote] [[Atma's Impaler]] may be cost efficient, but it isn't slot efficient. There are many better defensive or offensive items that could easily fill it's place, and that's why they nearly always do. If cost efficiency always made items good we'd see the item a lot more, wouldn't we? [quote=andrax1] So bruisers seldom autoattack? Jax is classified as an ADC? AD sion is probably a myth. Aatrox is a bug. Every 8 seconds you do about 6-7 auto attacks, 8 seconds is the Renekton's shortest cooldown, there is no excuse to not be autoattacking during that period. [/quote] [[jax]], AD [[Sion]] and [[aatrox]] are all what we used to call melee carries before that role name overhaul. They are terrible examples of bruisers. The only one of them that even fills the bruiser role is [[aatrox]] and he can play highly off his base ability damage and doesn't need crit at all. In fact, none of them do because they all have innate auto attack steroids. Also, you're factoring out CDR, which is something Renekton builds a lot of (Via cleaver and SV). This would drop his cooldowns considerably. he may have like a 3-4 second down time of not using his abilities. That isnt enough to justify focusing on his auto attacks. [quote=andrax1] If you've actually read the thread even just the OP I've posted pages worth of reasoning behind each item and behind why this build works. [/quote] I tried. I got bored. Mathcrafting always seems good on paper, but seldom works in practice. [Quote=andrax1] Clearly since you don't do anything useful after using abilities you seem pretty interested in being a mindless meatsheild. I however, am not interested in being a meatshield which is why I'm actually building to not be a meatsheild. [/quote] Then play a different champion. [[Renekton]] is highly regarded for his early game domination and transition into a bulky carry zoning/killing machine, WITH the meta build you listed off. That's just kinda what he does. if you don't wish to be a meat shield, don't play him or champions similar to him. Perhaps try his brother [[Nasus]] is you wish to simply murder things late game, cause that's what HE does.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]but please don't build [[atma's impaler]] on Nasus either.[/quote]

[quote=-NA- Veng Lmfao]Andrax, I doubt you're even level 30. How about you drop your lolking profile here, to see how successful this build really is.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=-NA- Veng Lmfao] Andrax, I doubt you're even level 30. How about you drop your lolking profile here, to see how successful this build really is. [/quote] There's a point to this. Talk is cheap, show us that this build works at laddering to mid-high Elo and settle this debate once and for all. But I should probably throw in a mention that the best [[renekton]]s in the world use the (surprise surprise) meta build. So I guess that's tried and tested. You think you got something better? Step up to the plate.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=Andrax1] Uhh, exactly which ability on which level are you talking about?[/quote] Yeah, if you have to ask (especially after I told you everything you need to know to even GUESS which ability it is), you don't know shit about [[renekton]]. [quote=Andrax1]Lets just bring them out, [[cull the meek]], [[Ruthless Predator]], [[Slice and Dice]], [[Dominus]] now lets get other abilities to compare to[[dark flight]],[[Blades of torment]],[[Burnout]],[[flame breath]],[[three talon strike]],[[audacious charge]]. So if you're comparing to like a minion's damage, then yes, [[renekton]]'s base damages are high, but if you're comparing to actual champions then no. It's really funny that you drag in solorenektononly's name in here when you don't even know his build. His build IS the meta build. [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/s4-top-lane-god-renekton-solorenektononly-326482]Dumbass[/url]. [/quote] Too bad NONE of the abilities you mention outdamage [b][u][[cull the meek]][/b][/u] at 50 rage at ANY RANK, making your rant irrelevant. Actually if you read SoloRenekton's guide, you'll realise that he only recommends [[black cleaver]] as the [b][u]1[/b][/u] damage item and you can notice he also omits [[black cleaver]] completely from the vs AP top build, leaving only [[ravenous hydra]]. Sorry, but if you're going to call someone a dumbass for not reading, better make sure you read it first. Taking one damage item is the standard (for SoloRenek), not two. A second damage item is only for when you are ahead and have the luxury to do so, i.e. SITUATIONAL.[/quote]

[quote=-NA- Veng Lmfao][s]Sirell, you just asked if I have something better than this guide. Do I really have to show you what every other [[renekton]] player has is successfully building...[/s] Derp.[/quote]

[quote=sirell][quote=-NA- Veng Lmfao] Sirell, you just asked if I have something better than this guide. Do I really have to show you what every other [[renekton]] player has is successfully building... [/quote] I know, I was backing up your claim, lol. It was directed at Andrax, not you. :P[/quote]

[quote=-NA- Veng Lmfao]Oh, oops. Yeah I'm really slow sometimes.[/quote]

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[quote=NicknameMy]Ehm, [[ruthless predator]] does more damage than [[cull the meek]]. Don't forget [[ruthless predator]] is all AD while [[cull the meek]] is only bonus AD. Oh, btw, another item you could get instead of [[ravenous hydra]] is [[blade of the ruined king]], which allows even stronger trading and makes [[ruthless predator]] stupidly efficient at shredding everything.[/quote]