7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=OTGBionicArm]What about Cho, Zac, etc?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Zac MAYBE can be jungled but he still has some glaring weaknesses... cho on the other hand just has way too many problems for one item to fix.[/quote]

[quote=Kazega][quote=H4xDefender] Its amazing vapora. Udyr is udyr. You can go flare and hardcarry your team some games, you'll still be useless sometimes. Do not go golem though. Sej probably will still be bad, just too many problems with her. I suspect maokai will move up a ton. [/quote] I wasn't jsut talking about those guys. I was meaning Utility junglers overall[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]what about naut? also has the 4 pot start instead of the 5 pot with machete hurt anyone?[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]Doubt it since you take reduced damage and most junglers didn't need the 5th pot anyway, although H4X is the expert here so he should know better than me Aside from that, thoughts on Tristana and Varus right now? What items should they build first? For Tristana I'm liking BotRK into either PD or IE, but with Varus I'm at a loss (can he still rush BT and LW?)[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]4 pots is not so nice for Wukong. Might be a problem for Evelynn too but I haven't played it yet. I think all the other common junglers have adequate enough sustain to only use 3-4 pots.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Generally go bork ie on trist. Follow up with pd or zeal into whisper. Don't rush BT until BT buffs hit. I'd go bork ie on him as well. I actually have yet to jungle anyone other than maokai and gragas today, although I suspect a few junglers will be hurting from the machete change. nautilus still sucks[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]You shouldn't rush BT on trist anyway. She had no AD scaling, in most situations botrk is better on her[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]He meant Varus I'm pretty sure[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Shameless bump - in light of the recent forum spam posts[/quote]