I didn't try out
Rammus jungle as AP yet, because
Rammus jungle doesn't get enough gold to really get that items going. Only at top lane you can get enough gold for that (or mid, but
Rammus is rather meh against ranged). I also got a video for you.
Ravenous Hydra, hmm,
Garen should actually get only 1 offensive item and that is
Black Cleaver, because the synergy for him with it and for your team is epic. But both combined could work out aswell, you then have to get
Ravenous Hydra instead of
Warmog's Armor. Best thing about it is the early
Vampiric Scepter, which really helps
Garen as I know myself that
Garen sometimes struggle with lane sustain. Test it out and tell me how it worked :D.












On Top J4, you're either a psuedo Assassin if monster fed or a CC lord, yes.
And @Nickname. EH.
Garen has baller sustain. idk what you're talkin bout. That little buff to Hydra for garen was nifty, but ultimately pointless as Garen needs more CDR and ArPen or Crit rather than Lfiesteal and Waveclearing. Bruta Rush is infinitely better on him than Vamp or Tiamat rush. Hell, even Sunfire Cape rush is better.
And @Nickname. EH.


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masteries: classic 21/9/0
runes: 9xgreater mark of armor penetration 8x







TotemTiki wrote:
It depends on your playstyle, really. Iceborn is a really good item on Nasus, however, I feel it could make miss some cs due to the small AOE when farming. I prefer Tri Force since it has no AOE, gives a little bit of speed, and overall better deuling potential. But, if you want to be more of a tank, then Iceborn is the choice for you.

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Electro522 wrote:
It depends on your playstyle, really. Iceborn is a really good item on Nasus, however, I feel it could make miss some cs due to the small AOE when farming. I prefer Tri Force since it has no AOE, gives a little bit of speed, and overall better deuling potential. But, if you want to be more of a tank, then Iceborn is the choice for you.





OTGBionicArm wrote:
By the time you get iceborn completed, missing a few CS here and there shouldnt make much of a difference, imo.
But youre playing Nasus. You want as much cs as you can get, and when you have an item that has the possibilty of making you miss cs, then it takes away some potential stacks on your q.

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I myself also Fancy
Runes: AD Quints, AD Marks, Armor Seals, 6 Mr/Level Glyphs, 3 Flat MR Glyphs
Masteries: 21/9, with Spell and Blade Weaving
Spells:
General Build Order: Rush brutalizer, Sunfire Cape, Ninja Tabi or merc Treads, Banshees Veil, Youmuus if enemy team is mostly Squishy, Black Cleaver if enemy team has multiple beefy guys, Randuin's Omen, Atmas Impaler.
I love playing
My other main top is
Runes: AD Quints, Armor Pen Marks, Armor Seals, 6 Mr/Level Glyphs, 3 flat MR glyphs
Masteries: 21/9/0 with Spell and Blade Weaving.
Spells:
Build Order: Rush Hydra, Get bruta or Black Cleaver if you are fed, Ninja Tabi or Merc Treads, Randuin's Omen, Banshee's Veil, Maw/Ga/Warmog's
J4 was the first champion I ever mained and I've always played him top, even when he was a top tier jungler. He's surrently a very strong top laner and his jungling suffers. Anyway, J4 is really good at snowballing top lane with his early burst and bully power. His Q+Passive combo is excessively hard to outtrade (Can't think of anyone that absolutely outrades you on this atm) and he can full combo dunk most champions at level 6. His only real issues are
And lastly, my unorthodox Top is
Runes: 1 AD Quint, 2 AS Quints, AD Marks, Armor Seals, Flat Mr Glyphs
Masteries: 21/9/0 with Spell and BLade Weaving
Spells:
Build Order: Brutalizer Rush, Blade of the Ruined King, Ninja Tabi/Mercs/berserker Greaves, Youmuu's Ghostblade, Infinity Edge, Last Whisper, Banshee's Veil or GA
Putting an ADC top. Surprise Mother****ers! Like honestly.