Is your favorite champion well designed?

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=tehAsian]Are you guys really complaining about Jayce out of all champions? Did I miss something?[/quote] He didn't get nerfed. Nidalee did. AoE spears are kind of stupid. And their scaling also helps his auto attack damage? WTF is balance Rito?[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][[vladimir]] i certainly think hes well designed, his kit fits both his theme (vampiric) and hes rather niche. mage, manaless, drain tank. he has a get out of gank free card but no real movement or cc skill either. and even an awful vladimir can turn the tides of a teamfight with one well placed ult. he completely fits my playstyle, a complete bully in lane who is hard to deal with once the ball starts rolling into my wota. that and most people completely underestimate vladimir. and hes ranged unlike the other drain tanks.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=Lugignaf][quote=tehAsian]Are you guys really complaining about Jayce out of all champions? Did I miss something?[/quote] He didn't get nerfed. Nidalee did. AoE spears are kind of stupid. And their scaling also helps his auto attack damage? WTF is balance Rito?[/quote] Congrats on 10,000 posts, lugi! :) Have a +rep[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][[Jayce]] may not be amazing right now, but that doesn't make his design not toxic or poorly designed.[/quote]

[quote=Zylmoc]As of now my favorite champion is Zed. I believe that after his tweaking he feels much less gimmicky, previously he was known as that one make it or break it kind of guy either A: he has enough damage to get his target or B: he didn't. Now if he doesn't have the damage he doesn't have to forfeit his life, and out playablity is even more possible. What I hate about the "assassins" in League that most are really just hard scaling team killers. Take Katarina or Talon, if they get fed teams will learn to fear them. Where as zed is more focused on the target, he gets in and he gets out, and he does it well. As for his lore I like the idea of a master of shadows, not only that he is also a cult leader that has grave ties with some of my most hated champions. He's great. I don't really care for the skt skin but shock blade is just great, and is worth every penny imo. All in all he has an excellent kit, has an evil personality, and a skill cap greater than most.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I think that [[zed]] is one of a few champions whose outplay potential is echelons above everyone else. The only other champions that have as much outplay potential as zed (imo) are [[vayne]], [[ezreal]], [[lee sin]], and [[rengar]][/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]^ [[Fizz]] and [[thresh]]? Also I like how [[lulu]] is one of the dumbest champ for a person to try to dive. Once I was even dived by 3 people by myself and between exhaust, ult, W, Q and covering my ass with E I got a double kill and my jungle killed the third, still making it out alive.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=utopus]I think that [[zed]] is one of a few champions whose outplay potential is echelons above everyone else. The only other champions that have as much outplay potential as zed (imo) are [[vayne]], [[ezreal]], [[lee sin]], and [[rengar]][/quote] Having a spell that's easy to dodge stuff with isn't much of an outplay, and how does Rengar outplay? The only one I'd agree with is Lee Sin.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=FalseoGod]^ [[Fizz]] and [[thresh]]? Also I like how [[lulu]] is one of the dumbest champ for a person to try to dive. Once I was even dived by 3 people by myself and between exhaust, ult, W, Q and covering my ass with E I got a double kill and my jungle killed the third, still making it out alive.[/quote] Fizz is an outplay champ too - i forgot about him; I considered thresh, but I don't think thresh is as much of an outplay champion, as much as a playmaking champion. A subtle, yet significant difference I believe. Actually, having a spell that dodges abilities imo is critical to an outplay. All the champions that I listed have pretty nice mobility and high damage. I included [[rengar]] because good use of [[unseen predator]] allows for good juking, damage avoidance, and when played at the highest skill level, mobility to dodge skillshots. Vayne should be pretty obvious - when played masterfully, [[final hour]] + [[tumble]] can be used to cause your opponent to autoattack cancel you; Ezreal and Lee should be pretty obvious I think. I'm trying to keep a clear line between outplaying, and playmaking. I consider an example of outplaying as 1v1ing another carry, and winning the fight when you start at 50% hp or less.[/quote]

[quote=FantasySniper][quote=OTGBionicArm][[Jayce]] may not be amazing right now, but that doesn't make his design not toxic or poorly designed.[/quote] Nah, he's pretty amazing. An early game bully, and come late game he has outrageous poke. It can take out 1/4 of an ADC's health with no effort, and he still has the rest of his kit to engage with.[/quote]