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Warmog's gives you health and hp regen, with a nice little boost from the starting item after some creep kills, or champ kills. However, this does not contribute to anything else, making it an ineffective item for a character that is soaking damage, because there is no damage mitigation. Including it in a main tank build that has damage mitigation gimps that build, because a tank needs some ability to contribute to a teamfight besides being a damage soak (i.e. auras, effective and painful initiation, damage). This is augumented by a tank's ability to provide crowd control in a critical fashion (thus why Mundo is not a main tank, he doesn't have any serious CC, other than his anti-CC none of his skills scale off of AP/AD, and look at that, Warmog's is a core item for him).
In addition, most tanky build characters have strong health progression, so don't need the massive hp boost from something like Warmog's, instead do quite well with a scant 1k hp bonus total from getting two tank items that have health and something else on top of it.
Warmog's is a bad item in a general sense, due to the fact that almost all other full build items that are considered good give you at least three functions to them (exception being
Also, when you say HP tank, you're basically saying: Character that exists solely to take damage, and is actually pretty useless because they pose no serious threat to the enemy. The point of a main tank is that you *are* a serious threat, and are difficult to ignore as well as difficult to kill without a concerted effort. With my basic build, unless someone on their team is fed beyond all reason (i.e. full stacks on a Mejai's/Occult), it takes at least a 3 man focused effort with one carry(unless all of them have 40% armour/MR penetration, then it takes 2) to kill my fully munched Cho'gath, and that's with enough risk that the carry has a fairly high chance of dying if I can reach them, as well as a ~20 second time sink, sufficient for anyone on my team to get there if they aren't completely on the other side of the map (or to backdoor a turret), especially if I'm able to start kiting. A 'health tank' does not pose that kind of threat, and is easily countered by an AD carry with
And thanks for the info on the BBCode linking. I used this post to figure it out properly (and finally found the guide building help section).
WHY ARE YUO HATING ON WARMOG'S?
it is such a great item that it gives 1370 hp is this a bad item for an hp tank? please give reasons that make sense
aslo the icons I just learned today and want to share, to get an image you go
[icon=(name of champ/item/mastery/rune)size=32 (a number from 16 to 64)
so cho'gath would be
to get a image in the text you write the name of it with and on either side.
1. I did say the build was on a whim. I've been successful with it, but then, Cho is one of my main characters, so I screw around with his build for funsies.
2. It's a bruiser/nuke build, essentially, great for 3v3. Probably not so hot in 5v5, though I've yet to do badly with it.
3. Have you seen his AP ratios lately?
4. Have you feasted on a tank at 1/4 - 1/3 HP for a kill? With that amount of AP, Feast does ~1100 *true* damage.
5. Have you tried my build?
B.
Because while I know he can jungle (and have seen it done well), I haven't done it, I don't "know" it. I will keep it in mind to include such a guide in a later update, but my jungling experience has been... Kayle, on three occasions (two in actual games that I won, even). And that's actually it. I don't typically play jungling champs (haven't even touched Warwick or Nocturne). But I'll definitely look into it. I'll admit that I would expect people that jungle as Cho'gath to have prior experience with jungling and with Cho'gath himself, in other words be able to form a jungling strategy for him on the fly (as I did with Kayle). I could theory craft a probable jungling strategy, but I'd prefer to test it out first. It's also why I don't have the off-tank build up, because I haven't done that either.
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B. Why is there no jungling build/guide!