Couldn't say it better myself. As a guide author you have to be able to handle critique.

LOL. Is that all you have to brag about?

Allow me to put you into better context:

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/20549469

Silver 3

Sorry, your 600 wins + 150 ranked wins don't mean anything at all. 10 wins at Platinum are worth more than 150 wins at Silver.

Meiyjhe was polite enough not to say explicitly that you don't know what you're talking about, but you REALLY don't know what you're talking about. That and you seem to have trouble taking constructive criticism.

Your guide is a mess. As your reader, I severely dislike it. The coding is so amateur that it literally aches my eyes to look at parts of it.

Some of the items are just wtfmymindisblown silly (particularly the AP section) and there are honestly only 3 summoner spell options for Garen. The rest are not even worth mentioning at all. The one point in Executioner is just not worth taking at all.

tl;dr, get over yourself.

Also, the thing people hate most? Authors with ****ty attitudes.

This build is bad in so many ways, I won't write my opinions since I agree with Meiyjhe to the fullest.

Before I start, I want to clarify that I do not think that you are a bad player (because I never saw you play at all) nor do I try to insult you. If people will flame you because of something I said, then I will make sure that they undo that flame because I don't want people to flame you. The reason I came here is because you requested my help, wanted me to give you as much tips as possible ("You can be critical, don't hold back, give me everything. I really want to improve this thing, hardcore."). Thus I did, I gave you as much direction as I thought was possible so that your guide could improve the most, which indeed was quite overwhelming I admit. Never did I intend to be rude.

The path of the infidel and the type of sins are the way my reviews work. In my review shop all details concerning my reviews are described. Everyone that requests my review will get sins and will get one of the seven paths, and the path of the infidel is one of them. Everyone has an equal chance of getting that path based on the quality on their guide. If you think that having a path of the infidel in the first place is offensive, then I can change the name of the path to something else if you so desire.

The comedy and all is fine if the piece of text wasn't made the guide people, except it is. You do not have to take the game serious, hell I myself don't do that either, but when you write a guide the reader must be able to say to himself: "I now fully understand the champion after reading this guide". Your guide did not teach me anything new nor did it convince me that you know what you are doing. Does this mean that you actually don't know what you are doing? Not necessarily, but it does mean that I as a reader am not sure about your skills as a player thus will likely look for someone elses guide where I am sure that the author knows what he is doing.

Now, in reply to your reply to all the sins, I will go deeper into what I actually meant and why I meant it as such to avoid further confusion:


@1; The cheatsheet looks very weird because of the long titles. This makes it very wonky which I describe as a mess. Maybe absolute is exaggerated, but my point remains.
@2; Boots of lucidity go in the way of something important like Ninja Tabi or Mercury's treads. CD might be very important for Garen, but as a boot option it is definately outclassed by the defensive ones. The tenacity is godlike against CC heavy teams and the 10% reduced damage taken is really helpful if the enemy ADC becomes scary, which he usually does. You already take plenty of CDR in masteries and items, you do not also need them as your boots.
@3; You did not explain it properly. The reason why DFG is bad is because it is a heavy AP item. You spent a lot of money on an active and 10% CDR. That is really damn expensive and very itemslot inefficient for a champion like Garen. If you buy an AD item, you will also deal more damage, but then continuously instead of having to wait for an active.
@4; There is no way that Lich Bane could be an option for Garen, especially if you do not think that Trinity Force is an option. Trinity Force does everything better for Garen than Lich Bane does. It has health, 200% basic AD damage increase, crit, AD and movementspeed which are all much more useful than 80 AP is and a unique passive that requires you to have AP in the first place. Even then I wouldn't say that TF is amazing for Garen, but it certainly outclasses Lich Bane in every way.
@5; How can you know for sure that I never tried stuff? This item, just like Lich Bane, is heavily outclassed by Trinity Force because you spend a lot of money on mana for Iceborn Gauntlet. Sure you wont get a slow, but you have increased movement speed of the phage active and the passive % MS increase. Slows are fun and all, but not if you have to pay a lot of money to get it.

@6; It isn't. Legendary guardian will give you 5 armor and 2,5 magic resistence if you are in a teamfight per point. That is a huge amount of mastery point efficiency. In order to get the same amount of armor and MR from Enchanted armor you would need at least 200 armor and 100 MR to make it equal Legendary guardian. By then 5 armor or 2,5 magic resistence wouldn't have that much influence anymore anyway as you already have a huge amount of defense.
@7; In-depth is good, but not in the cheatsheet. The cheatsheet should just contain the core information. In the guide you are allowed to go as deep as you want.
@8; The pros and cons themselves are too long. Explaining them is a different story. If you explain pros and cons you do that below the pros and cons themselves. There you refer to the positives and negatives and tell us what these mean. What approach would fit best for Garen because of these pros and cons? That is what should be explained.
@9; Champions like Shyvana or Darius are AD but deal magical damage ( Burnout and Hemorrhage). They are not hybrid but they definately deal quite some magical damage early game thus are worth to get MR glyphs for.
@10; Oneline explanations are never enough. You should explain what the build-part does, why it is good and when/why you take it over the alternatives. The explanation of Randuins Omen for example is a good explanation. You describe briefly what it does, why it is good and when you take it. THAT is what you should aim for. Not something like your explanation on Flash, your runes, your masteries or the starting items.

@11; It isn't a sin against humanity, but it is still wrong. That is the reason I point it out.
@12; Awesome
@13; You do not have to. I would actually prefer it if you explain your mastery page in general. Why do you go 9-21-0 instead of 21-9-0 or something else? When do alternative masteries apply? Then talk about the individual masteries that stand out, things like Executioner instead of Martial Mastery . Then you would have a great masteries section.
@14; Glad we agree
@15; Awesome

@16; Alright. Then I do suggest that you put it in spoilers or make it skippable by using anchors. That way the reader can choose whether he wants to visualise the bad summoner spells or not.
@17; My mistake, I meant Null-Magic Mantle. With this item you cannot get Spectre's Cowl though.
@18; Awesome
@19; Good
@20; Fantastic

@21; I already talked about this earlier in point 3, 4 and 5. The AP is a wasted stat on Garen and there are far more better alternatives that cost less money and give more useful stats for Garen.
@22; Good
@23; No they aren't. This guide shows a good example of a teamfight section. It explains what you are supposed to do, when you are supposed to do it and how you are supposed to do it. Your guide just talks a little bit about how you are supposed to lane and how you are supposed to be in teamfights. No mention of ganking, splitpushing and objectives (baron, dragon and structures) nor when you are supposed to do them.
@24; You don't have to explain more about midlane, toplane is fine. Just put in the title or in the introduction that you are talking about toplane Garen to avoid confusion.
@25; Actually, a different use of colours within the text is harder on the eyes. Besides that, the only section in the guide that you were getting slightly close to a wall of text was within the ability section. Even then it wasn't that bad. If you want to reduce walls of text you can do that better with the use of coding and structure. Like listing, spacing, columns, anything really. Most of this stuff is described in the coding guide I linked.

I hope that after this reply that everything I said is clarified. If you have any questions, issues or whatsoever, please PM me because I do want to help you. If you do not have any questions, then I wish you wholeheartedly a lot of success with the guide.

Good luck,
Meiyjhe

1. It could use some cleaning around the edges. It's not an "absolute mess."
2. With all due respect, I don't think you play garen. CD is very important for garen, and if you missed it in other places, getting in your boots can help.
3. Deathfire grasp is a grade A garen item. Here, I am going to respectfully say your wrong. I explained in detail why this is a good item. I have proofs included as well.
4. Lich bane. Same thing as DFG. It's not a top tier, but I explained its viability in my guide.
5. Iceborn gauntlet. Same thing. I think it's kind of interesting that you completely condemn things you've never tried.
6. Oh dear. You don't play garen. If you did, you would know that this stacks well with the bonus passive from his w. Also, legendary gaurdian is seriously overrated.
7. I wonder if I had a few matchups, you would say I don't have enough? I asked for critical but this is rediculous. And besides, I plan to add a matchup for every champ. The more in-depth, the better.
8. Wow! This statement is hilarious. Contradict yourself more please. If they are too long, but you also don't think they are explained enough, what exactly do you want me to do??
9. Okay sure, "ad with high magical damage." Come again? Are you talking about a hybrid champ? I suppose if you are against hybrid, it would depend. Just choose against their main stat. If they have a jungler that serves a as a serious threat, like Elise, it could be wise to bring mr. Keep in mind the point mainly is to choose for early game.
10. I counted about 2 or 3 oneline explanations. That's quite the overdose. Sometimes it really all you need. I think I remember you telling me earlier that something was "too long." Nonetheless, I could give over this and a bit if extra expalanation, even though I'll probably just be repeating myself.
11. Oh jeez look I made a mistake. It's not like I'm human. It's not like poured hours and hours into writing and editing and this and might have over looked the occasional thing. It must be quite the sin against humanity.
12. Ok, I'll look into that.
13. Your missing the point. As far as mastery pages goes for any champion, there are usually a few key mysteries that you need to get in. The rest are just meant to get you to those mysteries. If you really feel it's Necessary, I'll go indepth on every single little mastery.
14. Does flash really need an explanation? Fine.
15. You can debatablly replace both. I try to let these sort of things to be a bit more to the viewers discretion. I'll add a recommendation.
16. It's necessary to know why things are bad as well as why they're good. I will be keeping that.
17. No disrespect, but what do you know about garen? It's very necessary to gets cowl ASAP, this just happens to be the recipe. Note how I say you should get cowl if you can afford it, as it is the priority.
18. I had done a pretty deep check for grammar, but it wasn't deep enough. I'll do another one soon.
19. Okay, I'll fix it.
20. I'll fix it.
21. With all respect, the answer to that will be a solid no. These items are good in the situations I spoke of in my guide. I provided proof of the validity, and I will provide more as I make it happen.
22. Okay, I can add that in.
23. Actually, all of these things are in there... How long did you spend reading it?
24. Top mainly. I've expiremented with mid, and many aspects of this guide could also be used there. I will maintain this guide to be mainly for top lane, but if get time, I will expand upon mid lane.
25. Endless walls of white text can be hard on the eyes.

Calling me sinful and an infidel is really unnecessary. I simply asked for your input, not to throw insults at me.

Me and this guide will probably go up in flames since I stood up to a big user, whose opinion is the end all say all, but whatever. What can I do about it? I'm a nobody.
Also, you are really, really stuck in the way you learned to play the game. There are so, so, so many different ways to build champs than What you see in the recommended item list.
Results:
I know my topic well. I have 600 normal wins, 150 ranked wins, and a good percentage of those are garen. I know what I'm talking about. Do you?
As for the "unclear comedy," I love how seriously people like you take this, a game. It's a game. This is a guide about a game that I supposed to be fun. Who cars if I put some random comedy in there? It's not going to hurt or inhibit the guide, and it might help people, people like you, to remember to calm down and chill out, because it's a game.
Thank you for your help, but big parts of this were rude and not needed. You should try to remember yourself that this is something that's meant for fun. Please don't call people sinful and infidels.

Thy sins
1. The cheatsheet is an absolute mess. Titles are way too long
2. Ionian boots of lucidity
3. Deathfire Grasp
4. Lich Bane
5. Iceborn Gauntlet
6. Taking Enchanted Armor over Legendary Guardian
7. Way too much matchups in cheatsheet
8. Pros and cons are too long and are not explained
9. MR glyphs can also be taken against AD with high magical damage and/or when the enemy jungler has magical damage.
10. Overdose of oneline explanations
11. "but as far as runes go" Don't you mean masteries?
12. Coding looks wonky. Put the text underneath the pictures or use columns.
13. Just 4 out of the whole mastery page are explained.
14. "Flash is love. Flash is life." This is not an explanation.
15. If you pick an other summoner spell than you usually do, with what summoner spell do you replace it? Ignite or Flash? Put it in the guide.
16. Remove the "don't bother" section from the summoner spells.
17. You should never start with negatron cloak
18. Lack of capital letters when you use names like "Garen" or use "I"
19. Mercury threads aren't properly coded in your item section.
20. "homegaurd"
21. For the love of god remove the AP items from your guide.
22. Skill order is not explained
23. Important things like when to farm, when to gank and when to go for objectives and how you can do all these things properly is missing from the tactical section.
24. After reading this full guide I still do not know whether you play Garen top or mid, because as I read your text, it can be both.
25. Unnecessary use of different colors of text and fonts in the item section.

Thy blessing
1. All basics included
2. C2V

Result: Path of the Infidel
There is a lot of room for improvement. There are a few things that are very important which you should know and be able to deal with before you write a guide:

• You need to know your topic well (in this case, both Garen as League of Legends in general)
• You need to know what is important to put in a guide
• You need to know how you can present this important information
• You must be able to make this important information clear to the reader
• You must be absolutely sure that it the important information is clear to the reader

When I look through your guide, I have the feeling that you (with all due respect) don't know what you are doing. You seem to mix jokes with serious explanations that causes confusion rather than clarity. You do not seem to have an idea on how you can present this information in such a way that I understand what you are saying which makes it very unclear to me as a reader. The 5th point I put in the list above isn't there to say that you should do point 4 really carefully, but also means that you should read your guide yourself. Multiple times. I shouldn't be able to spot spelling errors, grammarical errors and punctual errors. If you reread your guide, you can also look through the explanations one more time to make sure if it is clear to you yourself. Put yourself in the position of the reader and see if you understand what you are talking about.

You are in silver 3, so you do have some knowledge of what you are doing (I hope). The general builds also seem fine to okaish to me, it is just some of the alternatives that really have to leave your guide. They are mentioned above in the sincount. Keep only the relevant information inside the guide, things that are experimental, fun or sub-optimal should be kicked out of the guide immediately.

Then expand your information. Ask yourself: Why did I make the build decisions that I made and how can I make this clear to the reader? Tell us everything that is relevant in order for the reader to fully understand what you are saying. You are free to make jokes, but use them as comic relief, do not overwhelm us with jokes. People have a hard time learning from someone that seems to not take his own decisions seriously.

Try to look through some coding guides. There are plenty of them which will help your guide to look more structured and easy to read. Changing (color) fonts, having weird use of pictures etc. make the guide an uncomfortable read. Take a look at some of the other links in this thread as well. Most of them have really useful information inside.

This whole post must looks pretty overwhelming, I tried to be as complete as possible with the sins and blessings scheme with the hope that you can fix your guide in such a way that it might eventually shine with a beautiful 80%. If you have any questions, please spam me in PM, I'd gladly answer them.

I wish you a lot of good luck and of course a lot of fun,
-Meiyjhe

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