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Irelia - Late game bruiser with a twist, true damage!
Build Guide By Yogi DMT
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And lots of other things said before me. This might work in bot games, but I have doubt it even works in normal matches.
Surge: Not versatile at all. Doesnt give anything pre-7 or so. Only lasts 12 seconds so if you are going to use it you need to somehow chase your opponent, or lure a dumb opponent into a sustained fight with it. Ghost sort-of makes up for having to chase people but the fact that you have no spells or runes the first levels someone like
Build: Build is good except for Madreds bloodrazor, which isnt terrible. Bad build order.
Abilities: You cant max Hiten style at level 8. Hiten style is useless level 1 because you have no forms of chasing or disengaging. It adds 15 true damage with every attack but since you dont have
Good masteries
"1) Unless you know your going to be going up against heavy AP, always buy a cloth armor first. It will protect you from minion dmg and possible AD ganks."
"You should start out every game looking to build mercury's treads, wit's end, and frozen heart."
As for everything else, maybe its a matter of opinion or playstyle. Because i go hiten style level 1 and almost always get the first kill in top lane. BR is the last item i get in this build so its not as cost inefficient when your lv 18 looking to finish a game. Ghost i find to be more effective than flash, same with surge. But yea you should actually read my guide before you go off on how bad it is
In what elo do you use this build?
And I'm sorry but this guide is rather bland reading it is real tough.
Listen, I just explained what everyone else was thinking when they read this guide. There is a reason it's rated very poorly.
"You should start out every game looking to build mercury's treads, wit's end, and frozen heart."
As for everything else, maybe its a matter of opinion or playstyle. Because i go hiten style level 1 and almost always get the first kill in top lane. BR is the last item i get in this build so its not as cost inefficient when your lv 18 looking to finish a game. Ghost i find to be more effective than flash, same with surge. But yea you should actually read my guide before you go off on how bad it is
1) She gets some base stats with her masteries + going cloth armor first gives you more armor than flat armor runes give you all together. Thats why i say to get wits end, mercurys treads, and frozen heart first, so you have that early game sustain. Her scaling runes help her in the long run whereas her masteries and picking up basic defensive items such as cloth armor or chain vest early on still give you that early game durability. Irelia is not weak in trades even at lv 1. With this build she can take on nearly every 1v1 if at equal level and farm.
2) Honor guard is necessary in this build to get to the last talent. I might consider swapping it out for something else if anything i can use in the defensiveness tree is worth it.
3) You dont need damage items right away as irelia, in fact you dont need to build much damage at all and youll still be a threat with all the true damage your dealing. Frozen heart gives you great stats and theres no reason to not rush it early game. It gives you that early game durability need for laning. The only stat that really affects Irelias damage output is attack speed and this build includes 3 items that gives you AS. Its better to stay alive first and then worry about putting out the damage.
4) Your not going to build magic pen or armor pen and enemies usually have more armor than MR. That being said, it better for Irelia to go for an extra on hit magic effect than more AD. Madred bloodrazor has all the things Irelia likes... armor, attack damage, and best of all lots of attack speed and an extra on hit effect. This item syncs well with high attack speeds and other on hit effects. So BR does absolutely help Irelia out. Yes its expensive but thats why i say its the last item you should be getting.
5) Triforce is Irelias all around damage staple after shes already got her durability items. It gives her AD, AS, Health, Mana, and slow in hit effects. All these stats are great for Irelia and like i said, she does need too much in the way of items to dish out the dmg. Between Triforce, Wit's end, and BR shes gonna be putting out a lot of true damage and magic damage while still be tanky as can be.
6)You clearly have not read through my whole guide because theres so many things your talking about that are already explained in the guide. I said that your skill priority should be W>E>Q just because i didnt calculate it right on the skill sequence chart doesnt mean you should have read that part of my guide.
7) Hiten style is the best choice level one as it gives you some health regen if needed and lets you go toe to toe with any other level ones. Ive never not had the first couple minion waves to myself as irelia when using hiten style. Also its not like your getting your next move within the minute or anything. Even though you probably wont have to, just play conservative until lv 2 if it really bugs you that much.
8) The reason i use surge is for the AS bonus. Sure the AP might be wasted but with a champion like Irelia where your hits only deal true damage for a certain duration and where your attacks restore health, attack speed is just that much better for Irelia. I have done any number crunching or testing but just from play hundreds upon hundreds of games with Irelia, ive found surge to not only be more of a threat damage but help defensively in terms of more health regen.
And i dont even know why im arguing with you when youve never actually tried the build out for yourself
1. Please change your build according to this. You do not start cloth +5 in this build, nor do you talk about it. Plus you will definitely get ganked early with this start if you don't take
2. Getting the increased health regen is much more efficient if you are looking to sustain your way through this build.
3. You talk about her kit doing damage early without stats, then cite that you require Attack Speed to get this. Therefore, why not go
4. My entire point of the
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6. OK, you could have said typo a while ago and fixed it.
7. Yes, you get more damage when you go with
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Ok. Let's go over this one last time and I'll explain everything step by step.
1. Runes: You have scaling health and MR in addition to MS. You will get stomped by any aggressive laner.
2. Masteries:
3. Frozen Heart rush: You do no damage. You are tankier, but you cannot stick to a target like if you had a
4.
5.
6. You take a random point in
7. You take your first point in
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10. I would rather not argue with your smurf account. That is sad that you have to create a new account to upvote your own guide. Maybe you should consider listening rather than trying to pull yourself out of this mess.
Please, if I missed anything, let me know.
1) She gets some base stats with her masteries + going cloth armor first gives you more armor than flat armor runes give you all together. Thats why i say to get wits end, mercurys treads, and frozen heart first, so you have that early game sustain. Her scaling runes help her in the long run whereas her masteries and picking up basic defensive items such as cloth armor or chain vest early on still give you that early game durability. Irelia is not weak in trades even at lv 1. With this build she can take on nearly every 1v1 if at equal level and farm.
2) Honor guard is necessary in this build to get to the last talent. I might consider swapping it out for something else if anything i can use in the defensiveness tree is worth it.
3) You dont need damage items right away as irelia, in fact you dont need to build much damage at all and youll still be a threat with all the true damage your dealing. Frozen heart gives you great stats and theres no reason to not rush it early game. It gives you that early game durability need for laning. The only stat that really affects Irelias damage output is attack speed and this build includes 3 items that gives you AS. Its better to stay alive first and then worry about putting out the damage.
4) Your not going to build magic pen or armor pen and enemies usually have more armor than MR. That being said, it better for Irelia to go for an extra on hit magic effect than more AD. Madred bloodrazor has all the things Irelia likes... armor, attack damage, and best of all lots of attack speed and an extra on hit effect. This item syncs well with high attack speeds and other on hit effects. So BR does absolutely help Irelia out. Yes its expensive but thats why i say its the last item you should be getting.
5) Triforce is Irelias all around damage staple after shes already got her durability items. It gives her AD, AS, Health, Mana, and slow in hit effects. All these stats are great for Irelia and like i said, she does need too much in the way of items to dish out the dmg. Between Triforce, Wit's end, and BR shes gonna be putting out a lot of true damage and magic damage while still be tanky as can be.
6)You clearly have not read through my whole guide because theres so many things your talking about that are already explained in the guide. I said that your skill priority should be W>E>Q just because i didnt calculate it right on the skill sequence chart doesnt mean you should have read that part of my guide.
7) Hiten style is the best choice level one as it gives you some health regen if needed and lets you go toe to toe with any other level ones. Ive never not had the first couple minion waves to myself as irelia when using hiten style. Also its not like your getting your next move within the minute or anything. Even though you probably wont have to, just play conservative until lv 2 if it really bugs you that much.
8) The reason i use surge is for the AS bonus. Sure the AP might be wasted but with a champion like Irelia where your hits only deal true damage for a certain duration and where your attacks restore health, attack speed is just that much better for Irelia. I have done any number crunching or testing but just from play hundreds upon hundreds of games with Irelia, ive found surge to not only be more of a threat damage but help defensively in terms of more health regen.
And i dont even know why im arguing with you when youve never actually tried the build out for yourself
No what you did is say im right and the reason is because i am. Thats not convincing me of anything. If you think thats logic then i just really dont know what to say to you. I on the other hand did explain my reasoning with logical evidence which you then ignore and basically just say my way is better because.
Ok. Let's go over this one last time and I'll explain everything step by step.
1. Runes: You have scaling health and MR in addition to MS. You will get stomped by any aggressive laner.
2. Masteries:
3. Frozen Heart rush: You do no damage. You are tankier, but you cannot stick to a target like if you had a
4.
5.
6. You take a random point in
7. You take your first point in
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10. I would rather not argue with your smurf account. That is sad that you have to create a new account to upvote your own guide. Maybe you should consider listening rather than trying to pull yourself out of this mess.
Please, if I missed anything, let me know.
Your kidding right? I have applied more than enough logic than you did in your entire guide. I have countered each and every argument that you have used to "counter" mine. I was nice at first (albeit a tad mean) but when you explained nothing and still tried to tell me off, that ended the niceness. Please, try and counter my arguments. Clearly, it's not working.
No what you did is say im right and the reason is because i am. Thats not convincing me of anything. If you think thats logic then i just really dont know what to say to you. I on the other hand did explain my reasoning with logical evidence which you then ignore and basically just say my way is better because.
The build may seem a bit weird at first but i tried it for a few games and i must say it actually dominates. Very nice man well done
Ranked or Normals, because I have played AP Riven in Normals and won.
Unfortunately i feel the same way about what you just said. If your not agreeing with me your saying the same things except with zero logical evidence. Its whatever man, bash this guide even if you havent tried it, that means nothing to me.
Your kidding right? I have applied more than enough logic than you did in your entire guide. I have countered each and every argument that you have used to "counter" mine. I was nice at first (albeit a tad mean) but when you explained nothing and still tried to tell me off, that ended the niceness. Please, try and counter my arguments. Clearly, it's not working.
Plus, I don't need to try it. If I were to, I would get flamed at excessively for not building correctly. This build could work in low normals, but not in ranked play.