whatever, that's not the question '-'

That argument is completely invalid.
That's just like saying Ranged AD carries are useless in a team.

srry guys, but u dont understand my way. '-'

think about it. DOESNT EXIST ANY RANGED TANKER/tanky '-'... Tanker is a champion/whatever else who can defend and survive on games e.e, tankers need physical contact, man to man. this means that the champion long distance has no way to tankers. e.e

And another thing... ranged champions are weak and easy-to-kill. Graves has a bonus armor/mr with his passive, ok, but this doesnt mean that graves can last longer than others. This is a way to survive on mid-late game. You probably will die against a physical DPS(Master Yi, Gangplank, Jax and Tryndamere, all feeded.) so, ATMOG is good for this. -.-

PS: And if you see the another builds, in my opinion(no offense), they're all the same thing(FC,BT,IE, etc.) "AD carry because he has great AD scaling. " And? '-'... this will make a graves that can only be sustained with the skills, without the cooldown reduction.

that's all, i hope that u can understand my way '-'

He's isn't just a AD carry, you can build him as off-tank too, which works out better for me (But for some reason I always play off-tanks best so maybe I am just bias). Either way :o

Edit: I'm not feeling the Atmongs or any of that at all though.. not enough Damage* :s

im sorry but im going to have to minus this one dude .. he's not a tanky DPs he's a strgiht carry with wicked burst dmg.

so nothign but AD on him .. sorry

He is not a tanky DPS. He should be built a full AD carry because he has great AD scaling.