Defensive items on carries

[quote=Lugignaf]How many should one have and how much is too much? After someone pointing me to [url=http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Ashe/?items=70,60,16,29,73,61&runes=36,36,36,36,36,36,36,36,36,375,375,375,375,375,375,375,375,375,40,40,40,40,40,40,40,40,40,62,62,62&masteries=3001340030330100000000000000003140010000000&level=18]this[/url] I started wondering, "Atmogs on a carry?" well, it gives them durability and a decent amount of AD. So, opinions?[/quote]

[quote=Hamduden]It doesn't take much defensive items to make a "carry" a "tanky DPS" imo. Banshee's is almost always core .. Atmogs is nice, but to me it makes the carry a tanky DPS instead. Just my interpretation of the terms carry/tanky DPS. Banshee's alone, though, doesn't make a carry tanky, but is imo very important, if not even core.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Since mostly AP champs/bursters are the biggest problem for carries it is almost always better to take MR item over Armor as a defensive item for a carry. BV or QS as an example. Atma's is a nice item for tanky dps champs like Olaf, Mundo, Nasus and so on, as an item for carry... nah... i would still stick with MR.[/quote]

[quote=AnIh]guardian angel banshee thats all , the thinkg you need is the passive (spell shield and rez) not so much armor mr or hp .[/quote]

[quote=Dakirokor]Pretty much what has already been said [[banshee's veil]] is always good. Of course depending on team comp and how well certain carries are doing you might want to swap it out for [[sunfire cape]] something else. Imo you really only want one deffensive item because after that you start to fall behind the other teams carries in damage.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]I usually get at least one item. Negatron cloak to Banshee's Veil is my usual pick. Otherwise, Guardian Angel is the best bet.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]QSS is a stronger choice then Veil and GA imo.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Adonikam] QSS is a stronger choice then Veil and GA imo. [/quote] QSS is only a strong pick against teams with one of these guys: Ammumu/Malz/WW/Urgot. Otherwise, you don't have the same EHP that you get from BV.[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Not really, it's more about PICKING what you want to cleanse instead of having some random spell make your item ineffectual. EDIT: It's also about price aswell which is the biggest selling point.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]I only get QSS for scenarios as Temzilla described. It's a terrible item outside of such. Why? End Game Gold Value. Temzilla is right about the effective health. Simple math tells a person that QSS holds back your build. You're just not as loaded as you could be.[/quote]