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Creator: Dremu April 14, 2011 5:46am
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It's not about the fact of the score alone. It's the idea that the best guides should be at the top for the quality of the website. So yes scores do matter because if the best guide gets troll voted to a bad score then the top voted guides reflect poorly on the site.

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But you have to think about it this way: What if the "best guides" on the site are really ****ing terrible and people don't like it? There are plenty of lower-rated guides that are plenty better than the high rated guides, but highly rated doesn't mean the "best".

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Well when the high rated guides are really bad, that's when people can comment and state very legitimate obvious reasons why they are bad and vote it to the bottom or at least away from the top. The problem with this new system is that it does not seem to help much in lowering the bad guides because people can easily comment to vote and give good reasons why they are voting them down. On the other hand, people that have no good reason can freely vote down the good guides so that their bad ones can take its place.

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If a person is going to provide constructive criticism, it's going to happen with or without the comment-to-vote, unless the person is protecting their score on their own guides - in which case I think it's great because it prevents revenge downvoting.
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It's extremely easy to just go to a guide and click a little thumbs up or down without even reading the guide. On the other hand, when you click it and it asks you for a comment, then you feel like you have to explain why you are down-voting and this requires reading the guide more clearly and sometimes this will allow you to see things that you would have just glanced over and you suddenly realize this might be a solid build. I believe it greatly reduces constructive criticism and I think that is the biggest issue with the new system.

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If your guide is over 85%, quit complaining. -_-

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people care about their score because they've put in a lot of effort and for someone to dismiss it without saying why... it's irritating

i agree that more accounts would be made if you tried to solve it by banning voting on a downvoter's builds. fair enough.

i would like to think that it is enough of an inconvenience to make a new account to revenge vote, but they could of course have a "smurf revenge account" for...

i don't agree that it comes down to censoring opinions; if anything it's the opposite - if someone doesn't have enough of an opinion to write it when a textbox comes up, then they don't have enough of a reason to downvote...

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I agree with spicy and that is what I have been saying this whole time. Btw my guide is soon probably going to be under 85% because it is almost there.

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Dremu wrote:

I want my guide to be the top better than the top maokai because that one blows and shouldn't be up there,


My guide is better than yours becouse it is mine....
Think mate, you are in a race for score or do you want to share ideas and help ppl? Scrax already said what i am repeasting over and over and over again. If you prove yourself as a good builder ppl will check your guides anyway even if they will be at 50%, just to check YOUR idea on particular champion.

Also imagine that all guides will get 100% and it will stay like that. What good would it be?

Also i am already kinda sick and tired of ppl blaming the whole world for everything when they get a SINGLE downvote... Geeeeezzzz.... I have a guide with over 900 votes and 150 downvotes, while i got 2 max 3 comments why i accualy got a dv. go on whine more about 1-2 downvotes on your 95% not 98% scored guides.

I'll just keep on helping ppl that care about comments and guides done by me.. they keep coming here to ask and say thanks for good job, no matter if the guide is 1st or 150th in the ranking.

Be happy that Administrators tried this idea, and that it is left partialy at start to help you get better scores at start... becouse the current c2v system all does is this... help you get to 90-100% within those 20 votes so you will rage less about a single dv. Well it fails for some ppl still.

Think again... You want score? Than go and play Ranked games to be 1st on the ELO list. Than write a guide and whine that it isnt 100% becouse you reached 1st place on ranked US/EU server.
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