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Underestimated Items for AP Champions: Abyssal...

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August 12, 2012 5:38pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by EVILISLEMONS » August 12, 2012 5:38pm | Report
Abyssal Sceptre and Sunfire Cape are items that are often overlooked/underestimated by players using AP champions who are melee or have short-range. They offer both an offensive passive - respectively, they reduce magic resistance by 20 + offer 70+ AP and deal 40 magic damage to surrounding enemies. They also provide defense - 57 magic resistance & 45 armor + 450 health, again respectively.

I always build it on AP Champions who have melee range such as Mordekaiser or Katarina. It's funny because the initial thought process for the enemy team is to focus the AD and AP carry. Then they realize I have 120+ Armor/Magic Resistance with about 2.6k+ hp. They always wonder how I could possibly be this hard to kill yet able to dish out decent amount of damage.

OK I mean yeah they don't really offer much offense, but a little does go a long way. I just find it so damn useful - especially when you couple it with other sustaining items like Hextech Gunblade or Will of the Ancients.

What are your thoughts on these items?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » August 12, 2012 6:29pm | Report
I've always thought of Abyssal Mask as core for frontline mages like Gragas, Annie, ect. But, mainly after other items that contribute to damage more.

If we have a dual AP comp or the opponent is whoopin me, I'll get an abyssal earlier though. Sunfire cape on the other hand... It's kind of a bad item overall.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by tehAsian » August 12, 2012 7:03pm | Report
Using the two in conjunction on AP Tanks are good, I've heard.

Like Amumu or Malphite.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » August 12, 2012 8:36pm | Report
Sunfire's is horrible on Morde or Kat... Why in the world would you be running in their face to do damage? You're a caster so you go burst down people in a safe distance. I'd only get sunfire's on Malphite and even so that's situational.

Abyssal is a good item on casters. It's a great anti-burstmage item to rush on champs like Ahri.
It also shreds Mr to negative which is more effective on lower MR targets than Rabadon's.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Nighthawk » August 12, 2012 8:39pm | Report
Scepter is good, SFC is bad.

Only people who get SFC is Malphite and Shen.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Vavena » August 12, 2012 8:45pm | Report
Abyssal Scepter is not over looked on AP because almost everyone builds it first or second these days. Now SFC is just plain bad on any type of carry. It's a tank item.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by GrandmasterD » August 12, 2012 8:48pm | Report
the only ap I'd build Sunfire on is Vladimir. I mean, I'd consider it but I build other armour items on him.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » August 12, 2012 10:38pm | Report
Since when was Abyssal Scepter underestimated. o.o
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by GrandmasterD » August 12, 2012 10:44pm | Report
Luther3000 wrote:

Since when was Abyssal Scepter underestimated. o.o


I just chose to ignore it.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by OTGBionicArm » August 12, 2012 10:49pm | Report

the only ap I'd build Sunfire on is Vladimir. I mean, I'd consider it but I build other armour items on him.


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Sunfire cape is great on most bruiser APs like Cho, Rumble, Vlad, etc.
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