It's a good route - all sustained junglers should be able to repeat the Golems-Wraiths-Wolves cycle three times as they get blue and red buffs.
In terms of improvement, however, I really wouldn't recommend getting Dragon solo at 5. Any good team will have it warded, as you should know, and getting Dragon straight at 5 is risky, as well as lowering your time with red buff for ganks.
Your current route involves golems-wraiths-wolves-blue-recall. I notice that when you next return to golems, you don't have anything past Cloth Armor. Why not buy a Long Sword and a Sight Ward, to get closer to your Razors, get that extra damage, and get that map awareness that you can use to scout early enemy Dragons or to counter-jungle?
When you return to the jungle, you go golems-red buff-wraiths-wolves-dragon.
However, if you go golems-wraiths-wolves-red buff, you can repeat the golems-wraiths-wolves cycle again and get to level 6. Then you can gank with red buff and your ultimate, and with the extra gold complete your Razors, boots, and possibly even Wriggles if you wanted to go there (especially if it was first blood), and then your Dragon run is much easier since you've not only got more items, you've also ganked probably mid or bot lane and made them much more scared of coming down to intercept your Dragon.
Summary:
-When you recall the first time, buy a Long Sword. No reason not to.
-Try going golems-wraiths-wolves-red buff instead of golems-red buff-wraiths-wolves. That lets you do another golems-wraiths-wolves sweep after you finish red and gets you to level 6.
In terms of improvement, however, I really wouldn't recommend getting Dragon solo at 5. Any good team will have it warded, as you should know, and getting Dragon straight at 5 is risky, as well as lowering your time with red buff for ganks.
Your current route involves golems-wraiths-wolves-blue-recall. I notice that when you next return to golems, you don't have anything past Cloth Armor. Why not buy a Long Sword and a Sight Ward, to get closer to your Razors, get that extra damage, and get that map awareness that you can use to scout early enemy Dragons or to counter-jungle?
When you return to the jungle, you go golems-red buff-wraiths-wolves-dragon.
However, if you go golems-wraiths-wolves-red buff, you can repeat the golems-wraiths-wolves cycle again and get to level 6. Then you can gank with red buff and your ultimate, and with the extra gold complete your Razors, boots, and possibly even Wriggles if you wanted to go there (especially if it was first blood), and then your Dragon run is much easier since you've not only got more items, you've also ganked probably mid or bot lane and made them much more scared of coming down to intercept your Dragon.
Summary:
-When you recall the first time, buy a Long Sword. No reason not to.
-Try going golems-wraiths-wolves-red buff instead of golems-red buff-wraiths-wolves. That lets you do another golems-wraiths-wolves sweep after you finish red and gets you to level 6.
"Your current route involves golems-wraiths-wolves-blue-recall."
No? My current way is golems/wraiths/wolves/blue/golems/red/wraiths/wolves/recall.
Its when i get full razors + boots +1.
The issue is that rarely ppl now expect ppl killing dragon on that low lvl. I ran some games involving normal and ranked (maybe not top 2000+ elo) and noone expected the dragon kill on lvl 5. Noone warded him, ppl usualy warded the bush from river side tho.
When i accualy kill the blue golem on other side to get lvl 6 (or the small ones on my side) i still have some red buff timer left and lvl 6 already.
No? My current way is golems/wraiths/wolves/blue/golems/red/wraiths/wolves/recall.
Its when i get full razors + boots +1.
The issue is that rarely ppl now expect ppl killing dragon on that low lvl. I ran some games involving normal and ranked (maybe not top 2000+ elo) and noone expected the dragon kill on lvl 5. Noone warded him, ppl usualy warded the bush from river side tho.
When i accualy kill the blue golem on other side to get lvl 6 (or the small ones on my side) i still have some red buff timer left and lvl 6 already.
Dragon has an Attack Speed debuff.
It was done specifically to stop people from doing dragon before level6 because of it's gold buff.
How do you plan to get past that?
It was done specifically to stop people from doing dragon before level6 because of it's gold buff.
How do you plan to get past that?
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i think u can... not sure but a friend of mine did it ... at level 5 ... with a madred n vampiric life steal ...
dnt know the rune or the masteries
dnt know the rune or the masteries
Did you even visited the guide itself?
I didnt want to post all the desc here as well. It is very very EZ to do for WW on lvl5 unless you are mega unlucky.
But some ppl got problems with that that i dont get, that is why i created this thread.
I did 20 runs with this, and got killed by dragon only once due to total unluck with single razors proc.
I didnt want to post all the desc here as well. It is very very EZ to do for WW on lvl5 unless you are mega unlucky.
But some ppl got problems with that that i dont get, that is why i created this thread.
I did 20 runs with this, and got killed by dragon only once due to total unluck with single razors proc.
Interesting, I haven't touched Warwick in a while, so I wouldn't know. :P
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Just some tips, I'd take ghost over flash still for your guide, you say you have bloodscent so its not worth it, but what if you are trying to escape? Ghost is a lot more multi purpose than flash.
For normal games I take long sword + hp pot for faster jungling, for ranked I take cloth armor 2x hp potions and a ward, the ward is multi purpose, you can rush their lizard and ward it or use it as a safety measure.
With my masterie and rune set up of 2x attack speed quints 1x armor pen quint, attack speed marks, armor seals and magic resist per level I was able to dragon at level 5, but I prefer to buy boots instead of the bloodrazor for easier ganking at level 4.
For normal games I take long sword + hp pot for faster jungling, for ranked I take cloth armor 2x hp potions and a ward, the ward is multi purpose, you can rush their lizard and ward it or use it as a safety measure.
With my masterie and rune set up of 2x attack speed quints 1x armor pen quint, attack speed marks, armor seals and magic resist per level I was able to dragon at level 5, but I prefer to buy boots instead of the bloodrazor for easier ganking at level 4.
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As you might know my main is a WW, and one of my builds is made for this champion.
Some of you already know my unusual jungling routes. I recently made my newest jungling route.
My goals was to kill the recently buffed dragon before lvl 6, and to get boots before 1st gank on lvl 6.
My goal was accomplished, it takes usualy 7:00-7:30 to get lvl 6 (not the fastest jungling but if you consider that you are killing the dragon it might be worth it)
I would like to ask ppl here to test it out, and post some results here. I would be realy glad to get some feedback from those good junglers.
Things i am looking for are:
Your lvl
Your mastery setup (if you use other than suggested by me)
Summoner spells (if other)
Your rune setup (if other)
Places where i could go faster/more efficient
Places where you failed the jungle and why.
And especialy if you had any constant problems with killing dragon.
I know it is some kind of advert but i would realy like to get some feedback from more expirienced players that usualy visit only forums here, and rarely go into the guides.
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/warwick-jungle-king-549
Why i am doing this?
Well i recently got some feedback that this new route is quite hard, and has many places that ppl have troubles with. I proven myself that it is totaly possible to go even without a single pot there.