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I dont have a problem with this kind of invade. It can backfire and you not paying attention enough to react to it isnt a reason to ask people to stop doing it.
Side note: i generally consider 2v1 lane swap shenanigans to be much more try hardy than 5 man invades
I dont have a problem with this kind of invade. It can backfire and you not paying attention enough to react to it isnt a reason to ask people to stop doing it.
Side note: i generally consider 2v1 lane swap shenanigans to be much more try hardy than 5 man invades
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most people have different definitions of "enjoying the game" from what i see which is what results in different definitions of tryharding.
ive seen some people try to talk all game, play relatively serious, and try to win, and these ppl might consider themselves not "tryharding" just because they're laughing and joking in comms.
ive also seen some people just try fun stuff and not think about the game when playing. they may consider "tryharding" simply playing serious stuff.
i'm more like the latter by default and I get upset when people are trying their ***es off every single inhouse game for no reason, but i try to adjust my expectations to the people im playing with. like when im playing on euw, on average, people try to take the game a lot more seriously, so i try do so as well.
point is, i think there are different expectations people have coming into inhouses and it's hard to generalize these expectations. some may consider invades tryharding because they expect everyone else to be alert when the game starts. others may want to just afk at tower until minions come. not exactly sure how you would attempt to fix up this. creating general guidelines may only appeal to a certain group of people agreeing with the respective notion.
ive seen some people try to talk all game, play relatively serious, and try to win, and these ppl might consider themselves not "tryharding" just because they're laughing and joking in comms.
ive also seen some people just try fun stuff and not think about the game when playing. they may consider "tryharding" simply playing serious stuff.
i'm more like the latter by default and I get upset when people are trying their ***es off every single inhouse game for no reason, but i try to adjust my expectations to the people im playing with. like when im playing on euw, on average, people try to take the game a lot more seriously, so i try do so as well.
point is, i think there are different expectations people have coming into inhouses and it's hard to generalize these expectations. some may consider invades tryharding because they expect everyone else to be alert when the game starts. others may want to just afk at tower until minions come. not exactly sure how you would attempt to fix up this. creating general guidelines may only appeal to a certain group of people agreeing with the respective notion.
Topic came out of the bushes for me at least. Invades started off as a joke with paint strats and became a standard later. To me invades have always been fun/troll way of starting the games. I've never really considered the aspect of other team that's being invaded on if I'm completly honest.
I view inhouses as games to have fun on and it's whatever if you win or lose them so you might as well go for crazy invade strats like solo invading against the enemy team or everyone flashing over a wall to invade. I'd say every third or even more of the invades give advantage of a kind to the enemy team because of a crazy strat.
Most of the times enemy team knows it's coming anyways and can counter it so I don't really see a problem. It's a two sided risk but if more people see it as a problem, sure we can stop doing them but personally I don't see it as a problem. I'd view them (especially the stupid ones like 5x flashes over a wall) as a way to get the feeling that the games aren't too serious.
Obviously I wouldn't tell the enemy team in teamspeak 10 minutes before the game or in all chat that we're invading if I meant serious business.
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our tryhards are more tryhard but our trolls are more troll, I think it stems from the fact that some of us are rivals and hate losing to eachother, we have a lot more **** talking
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Also, whether playing for fun or tryharding to win, I think most people enjoy playing practice games that apply to the rest of their League experience. Invades happen all the time in normals and ranked, but laneswaps do not.