I think your description of those being "safe picks" and your points are a good analysis. Also I feel like their great early game damage makes their early game ganks (lvl 2/3 with red) awesome, but due to their lack of CC their later ganks do tend to fall off. Also like you said because of their early game damage + clear speed their very hard to counter jungle.

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Wat.
As to the jungler discussion, I think everything has basically been covered...keep in mind, champs like Noc and Mundo were never bad, people just didn't play them much, and then when the pros do everyone follows.
As to the jungler discussion, I think everything has basically been covered...keep in mind, champs like Noc and Mundo were never bad, people just didn't play them much, and then when the pros do everyone follows.

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This of course is due to the current meta but as things are, I am seeing a trend more in the direction of tanky CC jungles.
Shyvanna and Mundo have relatively no CC and are fairly weak gankers. I think the trend more recently has been clear speed and tankiness for a number of reasons.
1. clear speed counters counter jungling from champions like nunu, shyvanna, and udyr
2. there isn't alot of gold in the jungle so hypercarries like tryndamere, fiora, etc aren't going to be able to get the necessary gold the reach that status
3. if they fail a gank they can get back into their jungle and farm relatively quickly
4. if they get caught in an enemy jungle they can get out fairly safely.
I think its more of a safety pick than anything