7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=NicknameMy]So where is the problem then? You never use Q until lategame so that energy is saved and otherwise in lane you trade until you proc [[thunderlord's decree]] and then you go out, if the enemy chases you or tries to trade back use your W and dance around him, waiting for your E to come back up. For what else you would need energy anyway?[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]akali's base damages seem way too low to make her a decent tank option, not only that I don't see why you skip out on putting points in Q just to max E.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Because Q if you do not max it first is just a waste of Energy? Also, don't forget if you look at base damages, total AD ratio means you add in more base damage. At level 7, the base damage of her E is 149.4 (+60% bonus AD, +40% AP). For a 2 seconds cooldown and this way a use of 3+ times + 2x-3x ult damage + passive damage, i think "low base damages" is definitly the wrong term here. Did I ever say something about tank? Where is [[sunfire cape]], [[abyssal scepter]], [[hextech gunblade]], [[zhonya's hourglass]] and [[rabadon's deathcap]] a tank? It is maybe tankier but not tank. Also, if you think about Akali, would you ever consider to buy armor to counter her damage?[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=NicknameMy]So where is the problem then? You never use Q until lategame so that energy is saved and otherwise in lane you trade until you proc [[thunderlord's decree]] and then you go out, if the enemy chases you or tries to trade back use your W and dance around him, waiting for your E to come back up. For what else you would need energy anyway?[/quote] Q is the ability you actually use to harass and get minions from afar. Also double proc Q always scares enemy melees. You obviously haven't played much [[Akali]] lol.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Wouldn't you have told me the same thing if I would play AP Yi pre nerfs pre it was popular.^^ Video material, guides, analysis and game stats (german): http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Hi+im+Sola [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mI0Rr9mSR4] [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKkFfsQZuwY] [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSZ2wVS-xHo] [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owWGA6bZvAo] Wait a sec, I think I also forgot to mention the words waveclear and splitpushing which are way stronger with that type of build.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian][quote=Mooninites]akali's base damages seem way too low to make her a decent tank option, not only that I don't see why you skip out on putting points in Q just to max E.[/quote] [quote=Vapora Dark]I think if Tank [[akali]] were viable, it would have been discovered before the 6th season already.[/quote] People were building Akali as a pseudotank in one of the preseasons/early seasons I think it was early S4 when warmogs and health was super op Sorcs/Mercs, Rylais, Sunfire, Warmogs, GA and you could still 1 shot squishies somehow Her base damages are actually really high considering the cooldowns but the problem is Akali is an energy champion so super low cooldowns is bad.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]You get energy back though, but the amount of energy levels with the Q which you're not maxing. Like, i get the feeling that they're building tanky [[Akali]] because they're playing her top lane, and not the other way around, like Top Akali is easy as compared to midlane. Also lets not forget [[Twin disciplines]][/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=Zyad]Hey, a question here, why so many people are rushing frost queen on ap mids? I've seen a few pro or high elo streamers doing this[/quote] I've been using it on my mid [[zyra]]s. It's not quite as strong on a mid laner as it is on a support because the passive proc turns off temporarily when you kill a minion early on. Still, the mana regen on [[frostfang]] is good and you get the 2 gold per 10 passive working for you. Where things really turn on is when you complete the full [[frost queen's claim]]. At that point, the passive proc does not turn off when you kill minions and the gold starts rolling in. I usually make about 1.5k gold off of it when playing mid. And then, of course, the active can be really helpful both offensively and defensively.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=tehAsian][quote=Mooninites]akali's base damages seem way too low to make her a decent tank option, not only that I don't see why you skip out on putting points in Q just to max E.[/quote] [quote=Vapora Dark]I think if Tank [[akali]] were viable, it would have been discovered before the 6th season already.[/quote] People were building Akali as a pseudotank in one of the preseasons/early seasons I think it was early S4 when warmogs and health was super op Sorcs/Mercs, Rylais, Sunfire, Warmogs, GA and you could still 1 shot squishies somehow Her base damages are actually really high considering the cooldowns but the problem is Akali is an energy champion so super low cooldowns is bad.[/quote] that was a lot more indicative of the meta rather than pseudotank akali. People were building warmogs on literally every champion, even ADC's were buidling warmogs. Besides that, akali was different in S4 than she is now. She's considerably worse now and the meta has even moved past her to favor heavy bruisers or just pure tanks.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Or, Riot changed her in a way that makes her different, but everyone still stayed at the same build and argued then that Akali is just shit without trying out anything else.[/quote]