Karma's damage comes from good positioning with all three of her abilities combined.
Spirit Bond has a ******edly high base damage + slow alongside huge AoE burst from
Heavenly Wave and
Soul Shield. If she's hurt even a little bit that damage goes up a rather large amount, as well as her survivability with her shield. I'm also lost as to how you believe her utility is gone if she has no lane partner. All of her spells affect herself too. Buff yourself in laning phase, buff the team later on.




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Well, look at it this way -
Would a speed boost be better on a Karma, or a Corki? Would the shield be better on someone that can heal themself, or someone that can't?
I fail to see how good positioning can help a support in melee range. Spirit Bond is ******edly hard to place properly, the chances are the enemies aren't stupid enough to be like that, and also, one would have to be behind the rest, meaning you'd have to be in pretty much melee range again. Soul Shield shouldn't be used for damage. It's good if it is, but it's a lot better on that AD carry who's being targetted by their team.
The base damage actually isn't that good, considering you need 6 ranks.
Would a speed boost be better on a Karma, or a Corki? Would the shield be better on someone that can heal themself, or someone that can't?
I fail to see how good positioning can help a support in melee range. Spirit Bond is ******edly hard to place properly, the chances are the enemies aren't stupid enough to be like that, and also, one would have to be behind the rest, meaning you'd have to be in pretty much melee range again. Soul Shield shouldn't be used for damage. It's good if it is, but it's a lot better on that AD carry who's being targetted by their team.
The base damage actually isn't that good, considering you need 6 ranks.

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What? What does the passive have to do with killing Baron o.o
Something has to die in order for it to work.
Was there a team fight?
no i was referring to how much health he magically gained from killing baron. as he was tanking it he was taking damage. baron has so much health its awesome.
and the way i see it, karma is a mage (not a carry, but still a mage) that has support like qualities.
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Karma's pretty interesting in that she's right between AP Carry and Support. She needs lots of farm to be effective, but her kit tends to lean towards support. With this current thought-process of 0 farm supports floating about people tend to think Karma is worthless. Give her a solo lane and watch her support your *** all game long while still doing sizable amounts of damage at the same time.
The whole reason 0 farm supports work is that they don't need much farm and their lane partners need a LOT of it.
Her having a solo lane is just silly. 50% of her abilities' utility is gone since she can't support anyone, and AP carries need it a lot more than "hybrids".
She really can't do much damage outside her E. Her Q means she needs to be at next to melee range, which is stupid for a caster/support (unless it has a stun or something on it), which ever way you look at it. So she does not much damage, and compare her skillset to, say, Soraka's. It's obvious who's the clear winner.
Karma ain't an AP Carry. Far from it.