Current meta is broken, let's change things

[quote=TheJohn][quote=omagma] [quote=TheJohn] Cassiopeia has the mobility advantage against Xerath [/quote] So do ALL champs that don't have to stand still to get the full potential of there spells [/quote] So that means that any mage can beat Xerath in lane Xerath is a lot better against melee champions[/quote]

[quote=omagma]Lol wut? You clearly have no idea of what Xerath is capable of...[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]When will ppl stop to create those threads.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]John, get to level 30 and 600 wins please. :)[/quote]

[quote=roest21]1. go ranked.. i play both ranked and normal games.. normal games i do for 2 reasons: practising new champs i haven't tried before, and trolling.. i am 100% sure that i am not the only LoL player that do it that way, i.e: your observations are just as random as the "random pick" in champion select.. 2. no jungler? did you smoke weeeeeeeeed? yes u can dominate lane, but basically getting outleveled AND outfarmed? if you know how to solo top getting a duo lane against you is like the moment thanksgiving dinner is served: amazing[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Bot lane meta. Poke>burst>sustain>Poke You can win bot lane with a kill lane. Most current lanes depend on the AD carry getting farmed. Like Team Goose(?) has been trying to run, J4 Leona lane, it gives a really strong advantage because of the burst damage and the good dash CC. Poke lanes, like Nidalee or other similar champs, will beat comps like this because of the lack of early sustain they will have and the range advantage too. /2 cents[/quote]

[quote=Dypheus]Mainly a Jungler is needed to gank others in lane, people will automaticly play defensivly if they see someone going out their lanes. Thats where the jungler kicks in, you never know where he really is. Also you need a jungler to secure buffs.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=omagma] Lol wut? You clearly have no idea of what Xerath is capable of... [/quote] Never seen one that could do what you're talking about. I accept replays And whats the problem of having no jungler? Anyone can gank, and some champions are really great on it About the AD farming: why they simply kill enemies? You get gold from kills and the lane is free to farm[/quote]

[quote=roest21][quote=Dypheus] Mainly a Jungler is needed to gank others in lane, people will automaticly play defensivly if they see someone going out their lanes. Thats where the jungler kicks in, you never know where he really is. Also you need a jungler to secure buffs. [/quote] that and: jungler gives you 2 solo "lanes" (1 top and jungle i kinda like solo laning) which puts you ahead in gold AND xp.. i really don't see the arguement that much, basically what you are saying is that you'd rather have less gold, less xp, worse ganks, and no control of your own buffs and jungle? and no smite for baron/dragon stealing? if you do not see the logic - then you sir must be lost in the woods![/quote]

[quote=TheWeekndOVOXO][quote=Lugignaf] Bot lane meta. Poke>burst>sustain>Poke You can win bot lane with a kill lane. Most current lanes depend on the AD carry getting farmed. Like Team Goose(?) has been trying to run, J4 Leona lane, it gives a really strong advantage because of the burst damage and the good dash CC. Poke lanes, like Nidalee or other similar champs, will beat comps like this because of the lack of early sustain they will have and the range advantage too. /2 cents [/quote] This is true. Ashe + Vayne or Ashe + Graves has been such a hassle for me to handle. I just can't ... even.[/quote]