How to counter Wukong

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=SinDelta] Believe it or not Twisted Fate is a good counter against Wukong, mind you the Twisted Fate knows what he is doing. I solo'd top as TF vs Wukong and by level six I killed him 3 times.[/quote] Just pointing out, that this doesn't prove anything. Maybe that Wukong was a bad player, or he took a risk that cost him lane dominance, or he didn't dodge enough harass, or he missed too many last-hits, or he took the wrong runes/masteries. Not saying that your point isn't valid. Just pointing out that it could easily turn around if someone tried to lane a TF against a Wukong.[/quote]

[quote=leaguesdf][quote=Knightly] [quote=DuffTime] [quote=Knightly] Also, [[Jax]] will be useless after Dodge removal. :( [/quote] No. They are going to adequately buff him and I suspect he will be fairly good all game as a result. Right now he's sorta underwhelming early and super big mid and late with big DPS and dodges. [/quote] Well... Him being "useless" is overwhelming to say the least. But I'll miss the old [[Jax]], with him being my third champion bought and all that Jax- Jazz (cwutididthar). But yeah, he's an extremely potent lategame assassin, being to 2hit peoples without them being capable to respond. :> But I'm really hoping they find an adequate replacement for Dodge, and I hope it won't affect tanking in such a way that it becomes the most underplayed role. [/quote] Too late, tanking is already the most underplayed role zzz[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=leaguesdf] [quote=Knightly] [quote=DuffTime] [quote=Knightly] Also, [[Jax]] will be useless after Dodge removal. :( [/quote] No. They are going to adequately buff him and I suspect he will be fairly good all game as a result. Right now he's sorta underwhelming early and super big mid and late with big DPS and dodges. [/quote] Well... Him being "useless" is overwhelming to say the least. But I'll miss the old [[Jax]], with him being my third champion bought and all that Jax- Jazz (cwutididthar). But yeah, he's an extremely potent lategame assassin, being to 2hit peoples without them being capable to respond. :> But I'm really hoping they find an adequate replacement for Dodge, and I hope it won't affect tanking in such a way that it becomes the most underplayed role. [/quote] Too late, tanking is already the most underplayed role zzz [/quote] Actually, tanking is the most played role, as everyone does it. If you didn't tank, it would be impossible to actually die. But really, most people don't tank very well, they just take a bunch of damage and then die. It's being useful while you take all that damage, that's what tanking is about.[/quote]

[quote=leaguesdf][quote=Temzilla] [quote=leaguesdf] [quote=Knightly] [quote=DuffTime] [quote=Knightly] Also, [[Jax]] will be useless after Dodge removal. :( [/quote] No. They are going to adequately buff him and I suspect he will be fairly good all game as a result. Right now he's sorta underwhelming early and super big mid and late with big DPS and dodges. [/quote] Well... Him being "useless" is overwhelming to say the least. But I'll miss the old [[Jax]], with him being my third champion bought and all that Jax- Jazz (cwutididthar). But yeah, he's an extremely potent lategame assassin, being to 2hit peoples without them being capable to respond. :> But I'm really hoping they find an adequate replacement for Dodge, and I hope it won't affect tanking in such a way that it becomes the most underplayed role. [/quote] Too late, tanking is already the most underplayed role zzz [/quote] Actually, tanking is the most played role, as everyone does it. If you didn't tank, it would be impossible to actually die. But really, most people don't tank very well, they just take a bunch of damage and then die. It's being useful while you take all that damage, that's what tanking is about. [/quote] Oh well I get your point, but I meant real, pure oldschool tanking, like a full tank [[amumu]], [[rammus]] and [[shen]]. Now they are not seen much, and usually just replaced with offtanks(Well rammus is fotm though^^). And even if players do pick tem they usually dont build full tanks like in the old days, and get some damage too.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Soraka. @Topic.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]After having tested Olaf against Chandro, I don't consider him a counter to Wukong. It was a good lane, with a slight advantage to Olaf. I probably edged out 20-40 CS by the end, I forgot, (Was like 130-160 CS favor Olaf) So, if you want to be able to lane Vrs monkey, Olaf can lane and marginally win it, but he's not a real counter :P[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] After having tested Olaf against Chandro, I don't consider him a counter to Wukong. It was a good lane, with a slight advantage to Olaf. I probably edged out 20-40 CS by the end, I forgot, (Was like 130-160 CS favor Olaf) So, if you want to be able to lane Vrs monkey, Olaf can lane and marginally win it, but he's not a real counter :P [/quote] As I explained with my last post, to counter Wukong you have to sustain hard, but you can also go for outdamaging him, yeah probably outdamaging him is not countering per se, but it works.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Olaf has both of those elements and it was still a close lane.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=DuffTime] Olaf has both of those elements and it was still a close lane. [/quote] Prolly you just bad at Olaf lololololol No what I meant with my posy is that you can go for outdamaging him, nd win the lane, but I didn't mean is safe or a sure win, plus olaf has slow-unsafe sustain while others just heal big time. Nasus has sustain too but Wukong craps on him for the same reason.[/quote]

[quote=Arkharan]Duff, a bad olaf? Impossibru.[/quote]