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How to counter Wukong

Creator: ExamplePrime November 28, 2011 2:24pm
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^ Ryze, perhaps?
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Ryze was the closest lane I ever had but I didn't lose it.
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DuffTime wrote:

Maybe I never played good enough ones, but none of those matches have countered my Olaf yet. ^_^

I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday

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ZioSerpe wrote:


I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday


**** just got real.
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1. Irelia's sustain is unreliable as it is based off of on-hit life return (not actually lifesteal). No one maxes Hiten Style either, so your sustain isn't nearly as strong as most other sustain champions.
2. Wukong's use Warrior Trickster to retreat. You can't Equilibrium Strike him if he's invisible.
3. Almost all solo tops have armor seals. Wukong also has Crushing Blow to help him deal with enemy armor.

I'm not saying that Irelia can't beat Wukong, but it's certainly not as simple as you make it sound.


1: WOW what else is there to max on irelia against wukong? o0
2:if Wu uses decoy every time to retreat he will b oom after like 2-3 combos (easy w/ armor runes and early cloth/chain mall)
3: irelias main damage is her W and she pretty much 1v1s any1 while her W is up.

i dont quite understand but okay

there is alot that actually wins against wukong. just pick sth with sustain
i rape wukong with tryndamere, skarner, udyr (just my 3 mains but they pretty much win against any1^^)
teemo is rly good against wukong aswell and there are several other great picks
the main thing is to play armor seals+quints tho against champs like wu, garen or gp^^
thats toplane 101 xD (several exeptions but most champions should run alot of armor vs phys top + jungler)

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ZioSerpe wrote:

I'm not exactly the genius of solo top, but Anyday pal, anyday


Okie, we can run some matches later. I'm always eager to find out what wins or loses ^_^

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3: irelias main damage is her W and she pretty much 1v1s any1 while her W is up.


She loses to a bunch of champs with or without W active too though.
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Okie, we can run some matches later. I'm always eager to find out what wins or loses ^_^


Better wait for riot reply to my ticket, today lag killed me and it still is, to the point I'm playing EUW out of desperation.

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ZioSerpe wrote:

Better wait for riot reply to my ticket, today lag killed me and it still is, to the point I'm playing EUW out of desperation.


G'luck with that, I've had 200+ ping issues for a week and Riot still haven't given a proper response to my ticket.
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G'luck with that, I've had 200+ ping issues for a week and Riot still haven't given a proper response to my ticket.

If these *******s only allowed to trasfer my account to EUW <.<

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1: WOW what else is there to max on irelia against wukong? o0
2:if Wu uses decoy every time to retreat he will b oom after like 2-3 combos (easy w/ armor runes and early cloth/chain mall)
3: irelias main damage is her W and she pretty much 1v1s any1 while her W is up.

i dont quite understand but okay

there is alot that actually wins against wukong. just pick sth with sustain
i rape wukong with tryndamere, skarner, udyr (just my 3 mains but they pretty much win against any1^^)
teemo is rly good against wukong aswell and there are several other great picks
the main thing is to play armor seals+quints tho against champs like wu, garen or gp^^
thats toplane 101 xD (several exeptions but most champions should run alot of armor vs phys top + jungler)

greez sam

If you max Hiten Style, you have no burst, and Wukong can just Warrior Trickster to prevent the majority of the damage trade. If you max Equilibrium Strike, you have burst, but little sustain.

I'd hardly think he'd be running out of mana just because he used a couple of abilities. Wukong doesn't have very high mana costs, and I've never had mana problems with him so far.

Wukong is also not a typical autoattacker. A lot of his damage comes from maxing Numbus Strike and landing Crushing Blow if necessary. If he can take the damage trade, your armor will be reduced for subsequent hits, and his attack speed will also be increased. Maxing Hiten Style assumes that you'll have the opportunity to hammer away at him with multiple auto attacks, which is made difficult by Nimbus Strike and Warrior Trickster. Even if he isn't able to win damage trades, it's not too hard to passively farm with Nimbus Strike. His last-hitting is about as good as irelia. I agree that she out-sustains him, but that doesn't guarantee you a victory in the lane.

Your personal experience proves nothing, especially since Wukong is not a commonly played champion. Also, all of the champions you listed are strong solo tops and I'm not surprised you were able to win a lane. The fact that people beat Nidalee with Cho'Gath does not prove that the one champion counters the other.

Anyway, the point of my argument was not that Wukong is un-counterable, or that Irelia is a weak champion, or that Irelia doesn't have strengths that she can use to her advantage. My point was that you cannot win against a decent wukong by just locking in Irelia, pressing W and right-clicking him. It's possible that Irelia might be a decent counter-pick to Wukong, but she certainly doesn't just auto-win the lane leaving Wukong with no chance.
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