Idea for ashe

[quote=Protocol]The only problem with Ashe is she is very niche, she only excels when you have good pursuit teams, her defensive capability is lacking.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]"pursuit team" never heard of that, last I checked mobility on a team was key which is why Shurelyia's Reverie is taken on tanks and or supports. That said, Ashe isn't "niche" persay, she can work in a wide variety of team comps. She's lacking in any real staying power but, her durability or lack of escape isn't much of an issue when you play smart and position yourself properly. Her issue is that her damage is ~crap compared to other carries, and her lack of a steroid of any kind leaves her just rounding the corner of the race track when the rest of the runners are on the straight away. Fixing her out of date Q or buffing her early damage and mana costs on Frost Shot might do the trick.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Rework her passive to be a steroid. GG. OR. You can use her as a support.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=DuffTime] Rework her passive to be a steroid. GG. OR. You can use her as a support. [/quote] Came to say the first thing, and to say PLZ DO NOT USE ASHE SUPPORT IN RANKED! ohhgodwhy...[/quote]

[quote=Babit]She needs rework for sure. Passive and E. Q and W could stay the same, I kinda like some of the q ideas in here like jeffy put out.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]She needs open minded players who don't think bot lane MUST BE AD carry+Sustain support Support Ashe + AP carry Soraka or Karma. Slam dunked noobs.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Just play Ap/support Ashe and snipe noobs all day[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=DuffTime] She needs open minded players who don't think bot lane MUST BE AD carry+Sustain support Support Ashe + AP carry Soraka or Karma. Slam dunked noobs. [/quote] Ashe has: Slow, Great initiation ult, poke, a scout mechanic. Sona has: Slow, even better initiation ult, poke(which is probably better than ashe's, before u put numbers remember it also gives ad/ap to the carry/herself), a armour aura combined with a heal last but not least a speed buff. Ashe only has the scout bird on sona. Which can be semi-fixed with clairvoyance and wards. Never seen nor tried support ashe though, it just doesn't seem as great as it might.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Actually, every single aspect of Ashe's kit is better during every phase of the game EXCEPT lane phase. The only thing support Sona ever does better post lane phase is if she can catch 3+ enemies in ulti. Ashe ulti is the better initiate skill as well. Ashe brings more utility, Ashe slows are far superior and are AoE and CONSTANT when right clicking. Ashe has a free CV. Etc etc etc.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Will post screencaps on ma "way to gold thread" Prepare for the rage :D Normal support items? i'd see phantom dancer as a nice item?[/quote]