Least Useful Champ

[quote=DuffTime]It's just common sense. Jumping around doing tricksy moves doesn't win you games. Blowing up your enemy, melting down your enemy with a hard carry, walking in and initiating at the right time with an invincible tank while your enemies are split- Those are the things that will win you games. -------------------------------------------------------- The only time I ever saw a Shaco win a game for his team, he was 2/7/4, failed all game, but had reasonable amounts of creeps. He probably had 600 AP. He put about 5-6 jitbs in the small circle brush in the river in front of baron. His Amumu (Yes, he wasn't even their jungler) and his Ashe started baron, and then MY TEAM'S idiot ranged carry went face first into the brush to go stop them from getting baron. Her dumbass died instantly because there were jitbs and 3 champions in the bush. Their Ashe ults out team which is now 4v5, Amumu ults, they ace, we lose. Because our fucking moron carry walked into the bushes without waiting for a CV or anything. ------------------------------------------------------------- Anybody with a brain could have seen that bait coming, although that happened a few months back and my normal elo was substantially lower back then. I tell the story to say, yes, you have to change your style -slightly- in the sense that if you walk into a boxed bush end game and die for it, yeah, you're in just as much trouble if anybody else killed you. (Kinda. You do have the advantage that it's almost still a 4v4 because Shaco is bad in fights.) So you have to be smart against Shaco but as long as you're smart then he's useless.[/quote]

[quote=KingCasanova]I don't know it seems like everytime I play a game and shaco is on my team, shaco always gets owned hard.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Wish I could get my opinions to sound as though they were fact [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Blydden][[Skarner]]. Aside from an ultimate, [[Impale]], which is a weaker version of [[Rammus]]' [u][b]E[/b][/u] [[Puncturing Taunt]], he doesn't do [i][b][u]ANYTHING[/u][/b][/i]. He doesn't do anything early game, doesn't do anything mid game, and definitely doesn't do anything late game, no matter how you build him! And sure he may jungle fast, but he bloody well doesn't DO ANYTHING out of it![/quote]

[quote=Xiron][quote=Blydden] [[Skarner]]. Aside from an ultimate, [[Impale]], which is a weaker version of [[Rammus]]' [u][b]E[/b][/u] [[Puncturing Taunt]], he doesn't do [i][b][u]ANYTHING[/u][/b][/i]. He doesn't do anything early game, doesn't do anything mid game, and definitely doesn't do anything late game, no matter how you build him! And sure he may jungle fast, but he bloody well doesn't DO ANYTHING out of it! [/quote] Nicely said.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Hotshot plays Skarner in Solo Q from time to time, but I don't know what his opinion is on the champ xD[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]I just jungled AD Shaco... went 11/5/12 for reference ;) Edit: following up with 11/3/7[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer][quote=Mrs Warboys] I haven't seen a Jarvan do anything good in a long, long time. I'm trying to think of a champion that's had less of an impact than him, but I can't really picture one. He just ults his own team, screws them up, does crappy damage and has no reason to be targeted. Or people in SEA just suck with him, but I remember he used to rock face. [/quote] He still does. Just need someone to know how to play him. Once heroes get nerfed or begin to require more skill less people play them. IMO J4 is still one of the best tanks. Ton of CC and an amazing ult when in good hands.[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer]Oh and Shaco is nuts good in Dominion.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Jarv's CC ability is still very good. His problem is now that he doesn't crush lanes he's difficult to place in a team. However, I think along with a support like Soraka you could still place him on a team by running him in a duo and potentially Caitlyn mid or Urgot top.[/quote]