MOBAFire faking viewers on twitch?

[quote=Hectikk]@DemonRyou: This is exactly what we wanted to happen and have mostly achieved, thanks for the positive comment. :)[/quote]

[quote=Anonandonandon][quote=Matt] The sidebar version was playing for the same reason. Having it play is eye-catching, our hope was that people would be curious and click through. Unfortunately it's difficult to track such metrics and objectively determine its success, but in the short time that it has been up, our followers and natural viewership has definitely grown. Certainly no one is being forced to follow or join the chat, but they were.[/quote] This reasoning kind of falls apart when the stream is also auto-muted. You want to draw attention, but don't use the easiest way to do so by having the stream volume start at 0? It's the combination of the stream being set to auto-play and auto-mute and not being presented prominently that makes this all seem so shady, and makes your logic as to why it was done so questionable. [quote=Matt] Up until last night the response has been positive, people in chat were enjoying themselves, the streamers were loving the exposure and lining up for a chance to join in, complaints were few and far between. [/quote] That's bullshit. Within days of the MobaTV stream starting threads were on the top of the LOL subreddit regarding how your implementation of the stream on the site was artificially inflating your viewer count. SivHD may have been the loudest voice so far, but he is by far the first. I cannot comprehend why you would have to put any serious thought into where you should go from here. Turn the auto-play off, allow your viewer numbers to be accurately reflected and this all ends. No one will continue to feel as if you're cheating the system, less popular streamers won't feel so shit on by underhanded tactics, and everyone will go back to making jokes about the AP Garen guides that this site used to proclaim were the very best in League of Legends strategy.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=Anonandonandon] and everyone will go back to making jokes about the AP Garen guides that this site used to proclaim were the very best in League of Legends strategy. [/quote] hey, i went 8/6 as ap garen one game.[/quote]

[quote=DemonRyou]Just went through the guides for Garen, not a single one of the item builds even suggest going AP. Such as the speculation of "botting/faking views" was merely a speculation, MOBAFire's guide authenticity and quality being bad is also merely a speculation. And as for the auto-mute, MOBAFire probably doesn't want to disturb or annoy the site visitor's experience by forcing them to mute a stream. "Then don't auto-play the stream at all" Why not? They have the option to and it is to catch the eye. Even though I'm still posting this, let's just ignore this thread, turn our attention to the official statement made, and let flamers flame.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Demon: The AP Garen guide was written maybe three years ago, as a joke by one of our veterans at the time. As a community we loved it, because it was so crazy and non-viable. Something like Deathcap, Rod of Ages etc etc. The problem is, outsiders hear something negative and keep to it. Even if the AP Garen guide was in the HUMOUR section of MobaFire, people just latched on to the fact that there was an AP Garen guide. AP Garen guide therefore MobaFire is bad! Anything taken out of context can seem bad. But it's when people spread the word about something completely out of context, that's when incorrect speculation spreads.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=TheBlueReaper] Well, just as I though.Too bad all of Siv's fanboys/girls are gonna start trashing on MOBAFire now. [/quote] sivHD is retardidly bad and not even funny, so the fact that he doesnt like mobafire, makes me like mobafire even more[/quote]

[quote=Anonandonandon][quote=DemonRyou] Just went through the guides for Garen, not a single one of the item builds even suggest going AP. Such as the speculation of "botting/faking views" was merely a speculation, MOBAFire's guide authenticity and quality being bad is also merely a speculation. [/quote] The AP Garen guide was some time ago. Back then the guides were absolutely horrible, and despite what the vapid bitch jhoijhoi says, it was not in any humour section, as there was no humour section. It was a top rated guide, as was an AD Yi build that suggested 4 PD + BT + Zerks was the best build. Or the AD Nunu build. All MOBAfire used to be was troll builds that the new players who are drawn to this site due to Google rankings thought were totally serious. And that is where MOBAfire's reputation as the most ridiculous and useless guide site came from. It's not speculation, it's reality. MOBAfire's reputation was so bad at one point that CLG gave up on their partnership mid-swing and just stopped having anything to do with the site beyond trashing it on their streams for a week. Now things most certainly have changed, and the quality of the guides here is infinitely better than they used to be. Which is why this decision to piss off the majority of the League of Legends community is so odd to me. They just started getting some good-will back, people were just starting to come around and understand that things had changed, and now this. I find it mind-boggling why MOBAfire would shoot themselves in the foot.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Anonandonandon] MOBAfire's reputation was so bad at one point that CLG gave up on their partnership mid-swing and just stopped having anything to do with the site beyond trashing it on their streams for a week. [/quote] not true in the slightest there was also problems with CLG's guides, like they were poorly written, offered no insight, and really didn't respond to the feedback. There probably more at fault because they were hired to make quality guides and failed to do so trust me, I was an active member on the site when this happened[/quote]

[quote=IShouldGetALife]How have they shot themselves in the foot? accusations brought about by a misunderstanding? Like Matt said they spoke with Twitch and Twitch had no problems with it and other sites do it so why can't MobaFire? If you rage at MobaFire why not rage at the other sites? also the streams are a great way for newer members to see that the vets that are constantly giving advice aren't just bullshitting they actually know what they are talking about? If the LoL community wants to follow Siv well then more fool them not using the great resource MobaFire is.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]Wow, vapid bitch? That's something I haven't been called before :P[/quote]