Notable PBE Update 1/7

[quote=Xeronn][quote=sirell] [quote=Xeronn] @Darcurse, sorry I didn't think of that. @Topic, I never bothered with [[Avarice Blade]] after I found out it's a waste of gold to invest in. (Before Season 3 btw). I'd much rather build early [[The Brutalizer]] then get my other core/important items complete before buying [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] if I was going to. [/quote] But then you're better off getting [[Black Cleaver]] for an extra 300g. [/quote] I did say [b]IF[/b] :) And [[The Black Cleaver]] isn't for everyone ^^[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]Last Whisper costs 2300 on PBE now just sayin[/quote]

[quote=Xeronn]Welp, there goes my great idea.[/quote]

[quote=Clu Gulager][quote=Nighthawk] [quote=Clu Gulager] you would need 343 CS at the 25 minute mark to break even...good luck. [/quote] I don't think you're including the passive gold gain, if you get it early enough, get to at least 200 cs by 25 min, and don't buy anything else, I can pretty well guarantee you'll have enough for it to have paid itself off. js. [/quote] I was including the passive gold gain but my math was a little off. Let me show you my process and if its wrong please let me know. Assuming you get [[Avarice Blade]] at 8 minutes you will have passively received 204 gold at the 25 minute mark (12 gold per minute multiplied by 17 minutes). Original cost of [[Avarice Blade]] is 800 and we now subtract the 204 passive gain and get 596 gold left to pay off. You would need to kill 298 minions with the +2 gold bonus to pay off the remaining 596 gold by the 25 minute mark.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]ah well if you just hang onto it then yeah that's right, but if you choose to sell avarice (which is what I was calculating) you'll be way up on money when you're at 25 min. Or including the total passive gold gain also puts you way ahead.[/quote]

[quote=Clu Gulager]Agreed, I was just doing the straight math without taking into account selling, or building it into something else which should be accounted for.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]Oh I thought they DECREASED the [[last whisper]] cost. I was like WTF?!. But it really was way too low ... And [[youmuu's ghostblade]] doesn't really have anything to do with [[last whisper]]. Especially when you think of Ranged AD carries. Melee AD carries could get both items but Ranged AD carries just go for [[last whisper]] 100% of the time no matter what the cost is lol[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice][quote=Xeronn] Utility wise [[Last Whisper]] doesn't provide anything except a means of penetrating enemy armor and a bit of attack damage. Having it cost more means it takes more effort to buy the item, instead of just "Oh I need ArP quick, time for [[Last Whisper]]." I'd assume Riot had this sort of idea behind it. Just throwing out what I think. [/quote] yea, and ie doesn't really provide anything but some crit and ad. oh and bloodthirster. nothing but a little ad and lifesteal. people just build it because it looks cool[/quote]

[quote=Xeronn][quote=DarkPercy] Oh I thought they DECREASED the [[last whisper]] cost. I was like WTF?!. But it really was way too low ... And [[youmuu's ghostblade]] doesn't really have anything to do with [[last whisper]]. Especially when you think of Ranged AD carries. Melee AD carries could get both items but Ranged AD carries just go for [[last whisper]] 100% of the time no matter what the cost is lol [/quote] It was never really intended for AD Carries, I'm comparing it to bruisers or melee carries.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]Nothing's gonna be changed. The few pure Autoattackers will get [[youmuu's ghostblade]], like [[master yi]] and [[shaco]]. And pretty much everyone else will keep getting [[last whisper]][/quote]