Patch 3.15 Notes have been posted!

[quote=Mooninites][quote=dillbutt64] she wasnt as stupidly broken as lucian or sivir(and by sivir i just mean on the hunt) was so i think theyre going to start buffing other adcs rather than nerfing them now [/quote] Only [[sivir]]s ult was OP and that was because of the stats it gave your team, not even herself. A lot of Lucian's power was his early game bullying but his late game was inferior to a lot of other ADC's. [[Jinx]] is strong at all points in the game plus the amount of utility she has is flat out retarded. A lot of what she has in her kit is just grossly excessive [quote=luther3000] Riot buff something? That'll be the day. If I know Riot they'll nerf Jinx next patch and then nerf whatever replaces her too. Can't have any ADCs actually making an impact now can we? [/quote] ADC's are generally still the strongest late game, buffing their early game would get them to late game faster and I don't think Riot wants to do that. If anything blame the meta for ending games at the 20-25 minute mark when ADC's generally start to kick in.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]I was puzzled that you could pick ghostblade as a summoner spell...[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Mooninites] ADC's are generally still the strongest late game, buffing their early game would get them to late game faster and I don't think Riot wants to do that. If anything blame the meta for ending games at the 20-25 minute mark when ADC's generally start to kick in. [/quote] I think Luther's issue is that they nerf the best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC... Every ADC ends up nerfed.[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Pheyniex] I was puzzled that you could pick ghostblade as a summoner spell... [/quote][/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Vapora Dark] Also the true damage changes were bs lol, they just directly nerfed 3 of the most underplayed champions in the game for no reason. None of them are considered strong, it was a completely unnecessary nerf to champions widely considered to be weak, with no compensation at all for it. [/quote] Fuck now I love you, this is too much for me. But yeah, fuck swain poppy and talon, let's keep this true damage amp on vlad and ahri[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Vapora Dark] I think Luther's issue is that they nerf the best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC... Every ADC ends up nerfed. [/quote] Yeah, this. It's really irritating how predictable it is, the second you see a pick start to become popular it gets hard nerfed in the next patch. I was looking through the champion list last night and realized the vast majority of AD carries have been nerfed over the course of season 3. As far as I know the only AD carries to have been overall buffed since season 3 started are Ashe (slightly) and Tristana, possibly Caitlyn and Sivir too. Almost every other pick was undebatably nerfed hard overall.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Luther3000] [quote=Vapora Dark] I think Luther's issue is that they nerf the best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC, then they nerf the next best ADC... Every ADC ends up nerfed. [/quote] Yeah, this. It's really irritating how predictable it is, the second you see a pick start to become popular it gets hard nerfed in the next patch. I was looking through the champion list last night and realized the vast majority of AD carries have been nerfed over the course of season 3. As far as I know the only AD carries to have been overall buffed since season 3 started are Ashe (slightly) and Tristana, possibly Caitlyn and Sivir too. Almost every other pick was undebatably nerfed hard overall. [/quote] It was also only [b]REALLY SMALL[/b] buffs. Corki: Rebalanced Q, nerfs elsewhere. Cait: AS increased 1% per level. <.< Ashe: More AS changes. Sivir: Reworked, then nerfed. Trist: Mana tweaks and small damage buffs. Twitch: Slight damage ups on expunge. Vayne: Condemn screwed over. Varus: Mostly untouched. Play him while he's still OP. MF: Actually had ult nerfed. Kog: Unchanged too. Lucian: [b]Small buffs[/b] until now. Jinx: Small nerfs to early game. Graves: No changes throughout S3. [h5]*cries* he needs buffs[/h5] Draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaven: New passive. <_< Ezreal: Passive/ult damage nerfs.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]i thought Ezreals nerf was to his W debuff?[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=DillButt64] i thought Ezreals nerf was to his W debuff? [/quote] Can't remember if this was season 2 or season 3, but they decreased the hit size of his W. Aside from that they removed the debuff from his W, and then also decreased his base attack speed, I believe. I remember Luther complaining about how it was affecting his last-hitting.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael][quote=FalseoGod] [quote]Damage amplification abilities no longer work on true damage Abilities affected: Poppy (Diplomatic Immunity) Swain (Torment) Talon (Cutthroat) [/quote] Did they just destroy [[torment]]+[[ignite]]? I'm going ballistic. Actually, this is [[talon]], [[poppy]] and [[swain]] we're talking about. Not [[riven]], [[kassadin]] and [[nasus]], all bellow 6% pickrate, all with ok-ish winrates. And, unlike the rest of the patch notes, not a single bloody note on why or what motivated this retarded nerf. [/quote] It's hardly destroyed... you will most likely not even notice the differenc ... and what the other guy said... it was never intended I'm pretty sure[/quote]